Received: from localhost ([::1]:39496 helo=stodi.digitalkingdom.org) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T256g-0006tl-Ac; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:47:46 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]:20618) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T256X-0006tD-Hz for lojban-fr@lojban.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:47:44 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=jC4AwFRxCpLG2c4z51i9qw==:17 a=xv0-aasytmwA:10 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=v-e_UCCTQVEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=LIhXG_ZGTkoA:10 a=pYa7RawlyPn3kpX1AI0A:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=jC4AwFRxCpLG2c4z51i9qw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 69.132.101.103 Received: from [69.132.101.103] ([69.132.101.103:51070] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 08/73-28917-2404D205; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 18:47:30 +0000 Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 130762AB7D for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:47:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-fr@lojban.org Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 14:47:28 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <502AA6A7.8080003@free.fr> <201208161250.17807.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <201208161447.28866.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Subject: Re: [Lojban-fr] Test X-BeenThere: lojban-fr@lojban.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: lojban-fr-bounces@lojban.org On Thursday 16 August 2012 14:21:45 David KOCH wrote: > I always wondered if there was a way to make Lojban more... compact. > I mean, there is hardly any space saved writing in lojban. > Sentences' length is about the same, considering that gismu uses 5 letter= s. > cmavo might use fewer letters, in the best cases. > Worst case is numbers written literally. > It is "advertised" that lojban is very expressive, yet English too. > You can also be really fuzzy in lobjan, just like in english. > Just that gismu only have one meaning, avoiding homonym and polysemy. > Question remains : what true benefit for the newbies ? > lojban as a programming language ? Lisp has already proven being more > expressive. > And more concise also. Quand une langue se parse inambig=FCement, il est difficile la faire compac= te. = Il n'y a pas de "Gal, amant de la reine/galamment de l'ar=E8ne" en lojban. = Il y = a des brivla =E0 quatre lettres, p.ex. alga, ulmu, urci. Pierre -- = lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko _______________________________________________ Lojban-fr mailing list Lojban-fr@lojban.org http://mail.lojban.org/mailman/listinfo/lojban-fr