From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Dec 19 19:18:36 2010 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-fr); Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PUWGi-0007mj-K8 for lojban-fr-real@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:18:36 -0800 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PUWFX-0007db-B9; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:17:27 -0800 Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35sf2493399yxn.16 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:17:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received:received-spf:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:mime-version:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/QsUp3D7fJIQp/9GWiZ/zH6dWXl9FKK4cXR+hI0v4ys=; b=wAoUmhuVeWt+gtx6PfTrQOMt7nKG9kjPQh0B2mgCK9ApfLPHca6NBqI99vGKO8Wt9V ZMz1VX1HzyX2F90OKSI9dYrMext4g0XyyPHSZgG4WG3yA7PJ0IlDP3UMhZnBoT3cBh0j 0Xec7XnYlEkuIq3qLhNn2JYhi9+vjzmZFt7jA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mime-version:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=6O2iOLvbPE02GKYRG/GPXIRC8AZamzEOVBXVbWpCoM6fmnhBi5ZJ6aK9NNqHyid2BN Kqh9fDpfBE67xdeku+XRMihHNmsCWALpBIvySllLJ8MKxARIbZLYMDWTThyhBL/3fBl8 LSKeMO6dNhqLzO7LemxxIvn9/0++FwTyE/8Q8= Received: by 10.151.63.8 with SMTP id q8mr354680ybk.41.1292815030247; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:17:10 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.99.19 with SMTP id w19ls3492295ybb.0.p; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.48.12 with SMTP id a12mr858377ybk.40.1292815029838; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.199.7 with SMTP id w7mr2791721wff.15.1292812332243; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.199.7 with SMTP id w7mr2791719wff.15.1292812332207; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n6si3450143wfl.7.2010.12.19.18.32.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PUVXn-00069k-12 for lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:32:11 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PUVXm-00069d-U4 for lojban-announce@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:32:10 -0800 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 18:32:10 -0800 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban-announce@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-fr] [lojban-announcements] Help with CLLv1.1 needed. Mostly does *NOT* require Lojban skill. Message-ID: <20101220023210.GP24603@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of nobody@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nobody@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-announcements@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-announcements+owners@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 210 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-fr-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-fr-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-fr@lojban.org X-list: lojban-fr OK, so, I'm working on CLLv1.1. That is: CLL without any content changes (except errata, but see below about that part), moved to a format that we can work with easily to generate a book *or* a web version. This email will be pretty opaque to you unless you have experience with XML and VCS systems (particularily git). If you have a burning desire to help anyways (particularily with the manual labour parts), please come on IRC and ask for help. Mention rlpowell by name. The help I need right now is two fold: 1. Look at the source, in particular Chapter 5 sections 1 and 2, which are completely marked up by hand by me, and tell me if you can think of anything else that should be done *at the data structure level*. (You can see the HTML output at http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/public_media/docbook-cll-test/selbri.html ; any comments on visual appearence will make me very cranky, we're not there yet.) Like, maybe you want another index, or another glossary, or more structure to the examples, or ..... Basically, if you can think of any case where in the future we might go "Crap, I wish we'd done special markup for the frobnitzes", now is the time to think of it. 2. Loooooots of manual labour; see the "TODO" file for help needed. It's all, unfortunately, very brain dead, but it really needs to get done. Please help! How to do it: Checkout dag-cll (it's a git repo, at git@github.com:dag/cll.git ; github page is https://github.com/dag/cll ) and read the TODO and/or look at the source. To submit your changes, feel free to send me a patch personally, or do the github fork/pull request thing; see http://help.github.com/pull-requests/ A small word of warning: IF YOU MAKE CONTENT CHANGES, I WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN. Seriously. I will come to your house and nom-nom-nom. I'm not even joking. If you don't have kids, I'll find something else important and eat that. Like your arms. OK, I *am* joking, but I will be very upset, and you will be banned from helping with this project, and probably BPFK stuff in general, like, forever. Or until I forget. If you see a content problem, either post to the BPFK list or update http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DCLL%2C+aka+Reference+Gramm= ar%2C+Errata -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 The mail came from the "Lojban Announcements" Google Group. You are probab= ly not subscribed to that group directly. All mails to this group are forw= arded to all major Lojban groups. See http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Lojbanic+= Forums for details about what this list is for, including how to contact th= e management. 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