Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:58728) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R6Tjd-0004XL-Oo; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:44 -0700 Received: by fxg17 with SMTP id 17sf2532840fxg.16 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ayjil09wYRNFZCfCucYVsG6vuuuHGv8eAR59hedH90c=; b=nyqgMSV3ftlm5fXZv+78r7ZiyeW4X8oK9CXZPLTjEIexhVaWmkO+uvSaDCUjRTAZTP 78GiTVPR/8WHAHWGvNg4XE5tygjKsEKFUe/8ZTN39vFmJtgBdV+KvWsXoxDKz3Qdytvl PxMRIehvvvIa6EEQ3kpLEkmFG2qg2irmqJsjQ= Received: by 10.223.10.83 with SMTP id o19mr327942fao.49.1316638168751; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.134.87 with SMTP id i23ls2789984bkt.2.gmail; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.151.213 with SMTP id d21mr301936bkw.15.1316638167535; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.151.213 with SMTP id d21mr301935bkw.15.1316638167511; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f43.google.com (mail-fx0-f43.google.com [209.85.161.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k16si887496fah.0.2011.09.21.13.49.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.43; Received: by fxh19 with SMTP id 19so2549289fxh.30 for ; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.37.26 with SMTP id v26mr1678326fad.100.1316638167308; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.41.68 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 13:49:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1f80cb56-ee89-400c-ab47-26cd672ee572@l4g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> References: <90e6ba6e8ea2b4b5d104ad5c4012@google.com> <201109210015.38262.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1f80cb56-ee89-400c-ab47-26cd672ee572@l4g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 14:49:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Should we have another mailing list for abstruse discussions? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517448a0642995404ad79b6e8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --001517448a0642995404ad79b6e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Okay, pros and cons for moving such discussions to their own list (feel free to add your own): Pros: People who aren't interested in the discussions won't see them, because they won't be subscribed to that list. Newbies won't be discouraged from learning Lojban due to seeing long, technical, abstruse discussions. Cons: People who are interested in the discussions will need to subscribe to a new list, and post those kind of topics exclusively on that list. Based on just what I have above, we should have a "lojban-theory" list. I'd make it myslef, but that would mean I'd be subscribed to it, and I'm one of the uninterested people. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:01 PM, ianek wrote: > Wow. > Pierre started a discussion about how discussions on this list go > long, obscure and lack conclussion. > And guess what? > That discussions momentarily grew long and obscure and I haven't seen > a conclussion. > Wow. > > mu'o mi'e ianek > > On Sep 21, 6:15 am, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Tuesday 20 September 2011 18:28:53 Remo Dentato wrote: > > > > > {bu'u pa sasfoi lo bakni ku sisku lo srasu .i lo gerku ku go'i lo > > > ractu .i lo tcikonia ku go'i lo rebyrespa} > > > > I'd say "tupsince", since snakes and lizards are more closely related to > each > > other than to other extant reptiles, and other reptiles have tails. As to > > tsikonia/tcikonia, I'd call them variants. vlatai rejects "tsiguenia", > but > > that's a bug. > > > > I understood all the Latin except "eodem". Usually I don't understand > enough > > words in a Latin sentence to make sense of it. > > > > Pierre > > -- > > li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du > > li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --001517448a0642995404ad79b6e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay, pros and cons for moving such discussions to their own list (feel fre= e to add your own):

Pros:
People who aren't interested in the= discussions won't see them, because they won't be subscribed to th= at list.
Newbies won't be discouraged from learning Lojban due to seeing long, t= echnical, abstruse discussions.

Cons:
People who are interested i= n the discussions will need to subscribe to a new list, and post those kind= of topics exclusively on that list.

Based on just what I have above, we should have a "lojban-theory&q= uot; list. I'd make it myslef, but that would mean I'd be subscribe= d to it, and I'm one of the uninterested people.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:01 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow.
Pierre started a discussion about how discussions on this list go
long, obscure and lack conclussion.
And guess what?
That discussions momentarily grew long and obscure and I haven't seen a conclussion.
Wow.

mu'o mi'e ianek

On Sep 21, 6:15=A0am, Pierre Abbat <p...@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 September 2011 18:28:53 Remo Dentato wrote:
>
> > {bu'u pa sasfoi lo bakni ku sisku lo srasu .i lo gerku ku go&= #39;i lo
> > ractu .i lo tcikonia ku go'i lo rebyrespa}
>
> I'd say "tupsince", since snakes and lizards are more cl= osely related to each
> other than to other extant reptiles, and other reptiles have tails. As= to
> tsikonia/tcikonia, I'd call them variants. vlatai rejects "ts= iguenia", but
> that's a bug.
>
> I understood all the Latin except "eodem". Usually I don'= ;t understand enough
> words in a Latin sentence to make sense of it.
>
> Pierre
> --
> li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
> li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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