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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org
> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 02:49:27PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> >    Okay, pros and cons for moving such discussions to their own list
> (feel
> >    free to add your own):
> >
> >    Pros:
> >    People who aren't interested in the discussions won't see them,
> because
> >    they won't be subscribed to that list.
> >    Newbies won't be discouraged from learning Lojban due to seeing long,
> >    technical, abstruse discussions.
> >
> >    Cons:
> >    People who are interested in the discussions will need to subscribe to
> a
> >    new list, and post those kind of topics exclusively on that list.
> >
>
> Add to the con: it won't always be clear that a discussion that
> starts on the main list will turn into a longer conversation that
> should have been on this proposed list.
>
> >    Based on just what I have above, we should have a "lojban-theory"
> list.
> >    I'd make it myslef, but that would mean I'd be subscribed to it, and
> I'm
> >    one of the uninterested people.
> >
>
> Protip: You have to summarize the thread, not just restate your own
> pro/con argument in a new format.
>

Protip: I don't have to summarize anything, and that's not a restatement.

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM, .alyn.p=
ost. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org=
">alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 02:49:27PM -0600, Jonathan Jones =
wrote:<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0Okay, pros and cons for moving such discussions to their own li=
st (feel<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0free to add your own):<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0Pros:<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0People who aren&#39;t interested in the discussions won&#39;t s=
ee them, because<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0they won&#39;t be subscribed to that list.<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0Newbies won&#39;t be discouraged from learning Lojban due to se=
eing long,<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0technical, abstruse discussions.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0Cons:<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0People who are interested in the discussions will need to subsc=
ribe to a<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0new list, and post those kind of topics exclusively on that lis=
t.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>Add to the con: it won&#39;t always be clear that a discussion that<b=
r>
starts on the main list will turn into a longer conversation that<br>
should have been on this proposed list.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; =A0 =A0Based on just what I have above, we should have a &quot;lojban-=
theory&quot; list.<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0I&#39;d make it myslef, but that would mean I&#39;d be subscrib=
ed to it, and I&#39;m<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0one of the uninterested people.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>Protip: You have to summarize the thread, not just restate your own<b=
r>
pro/con argument in a new format.<br>
</blockquote></div><br>Protip: I don&#39;t have to summarize anything, and =
that&#39;s not a restatement.<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e=
 .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi=
 patfu do zo&#39;o<br>
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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