Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:36013) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R74oF-0004Ry-Ip; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:25:00 -0700 Received: by fxg17 with SMTP id 17sf4428550fxg.16 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z0Ul67RFPq1ehKSI21ZVb1OGWNuMUQNEeBVJRRERazo=; b=ap0stUkyufY+dXSq8Tvb5+78I1ZS1KxqDPUK1pBEp/XXGcWn1s5qMXKxaC+UH/+CvA 4nAvak8VeUMymnwEyW91UfjCju6tvr6Os2H3/WikdTZohDa6FnoWuhqlNxQr9btdIVzp UFZ+XxVmhV3YuW06RLIf5TkZNUZF/yZkgYNdE= Received: by 10.223.53.196 with SMTP id n4mr818490fag.38.1316780681056; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.2.69 with SMTP id 5ls4765464bki.1.gmail; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.128.141 with SMTP id k13mr777096bks.2.1316780679742; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.128.141 with SMTP id k13mr777095bks.2.1316780679724; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f48.google.com (mail-bw0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a16si1939357bku.3.2011.09.23.05.24.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.48; Received: by bkbzu5 with SMTP id zu5so5229565bkb.21 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.141.67 with SMTP id l3mr2466978bku.239.1316780679398; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.41.75 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 05:24:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1316555431.89488.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <90e6ba6e8ea2b4b5d104ad5c4012@google.com> <94BEFB7E-3B68-4F1A-BAE4-55232754DB45@yahoo.com> <1316552990.27459.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1316555431.89488.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:24:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Should we have another mailing list for abstruse discussions? From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / mi tugni la remod lo du'u le preti pu to nordji la'a toi tolclite .i lo nu reisku cu sei mi te simlu se'u se jicmu lo za'i sruma lo du'u lo mukti be lo nu nelci la lojban be'o poi na simsa lo mukti pe lo reisku cu na vajni .i da'i lo nu do lanli ro glibau jufra pa'a tu'a lo lojbo pu lo nu do ciska ri cu se bapli .i do noroi kakne lo nu mrilu .i su'o mi'a nelci lo nu bau la lojban casnu gi'enai lanli roda --gejyspa On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:50 PM, John E Clifford wro= te: > I didn't mean to be rude, but it is a fair point, nonetheless and I am ge= nuinely > interested. =A0I am glad you find other joys in in it than clarity of arg= ument and > syntactic form. =A0I hope that the investigation into the minutiae will t= urn up > devices that you can use to even more pleasing effects. =A0And do follow = along, > you will learn quite a bit (not necessarily things you want to know, to b= e > sure). =A0Meanwhile, you can have your vegetables (if that is not too rud= e) and I > my rabbit with uninterfering pleasure. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Remo Dentato > To: lojban@googlegroups.com > Sent: Tue, September 20, 2011 4:29:49 PM > Subject: Re: [lojban] Should we have another mailing list for abstruse > discussions? > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:09 PM, John E Clifford = wrote: >> Well, in keeping with the saying, what is the attraction of Lojban to yo= u? > > Personally I find this an extremely rude response. > > The reasons I like Lojban are the more diverse and the fact that it > can attract different people is a testimony of its greateness. > > You may think it's a nice abstract toy to dissect, I like the sound > and the shape of the sentences. I like tanru and I like zo'e and I > like how sentences come out as different from any other language that > I know. > > I'm not interested in the hidden corner of the grammar, unless they > bring something to the understanding of the language itself. If the > only way to understand what you are talking about is to come up at > your level of knowledge, probably I won't need your explanation. > > As Seneca said: > > "in eodem prato bos herbam quaerit, canis leporem, ciconia lacertam" > > remod > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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