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 Content preview:  I am starting to study Lojban again. I'm not so ambitious
   about what I can expect to be able to program this time; bipolar disorder
   can cause one to bite off more than one can chew. I have remembered a few
   things. I'd like someone to look at what I have written at http://fagricipni.com/lojban/about/lojban1_draft1.html
    . I'm not so interested in checking English grammar and spelling yet; finding
    any mistakes in *fact* of what I have said about Lojban is more important.
    I will however give you a similar answer to what I gave a friend of mine
   when I had him check a printed file of mine for factual accuracy. He had the
    paper right in front of him and when he saw the first misspelling he asked
    me if I wanted him to mark those errors as well; the answer I gave him was
    don't make an effort to look for them, but go ahead an mark the ones that
    do strike you as you are checking for *factual* accuracy. The thing is, though,
    he had the paper and a red pen right in front of him; in order for you to
    report this type of error to me you are going to have to type in enough information
    for me to find the location that you are talking about. Given that this is
    a very early draft, I don't think it would be worth the effort to concentrate
    on *English* spelling and grammar just yet. [...] 
 
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I am starting to study Lojban again.  I'm not so ambitious about what I
can expect to be able to program this time; bipolar disorder can cause one
to bite off more than one can chew.  I have remembered a few things.  I'd
like someone to look at what I have written at
http://fagricipni.com/lojban/about/lojban1_draft1.html .  I'm not so
interested in checking English grammar and spelling yet; finding any
mistakes in *fact* of what I have said about Lojban is more important.  I
will however give you a similar answer to what I gave a friend of mine
when I had him check a printed file of mine for factual accuracy.  He had
the paper right in front of him and when he saw the first misspelling he
asked me if I wanted him to mark those errors as well; the answer I gave
him was don't make an effort to look for them, but go ahead an mark the
ones that do strike you as you are checking for *factual* accuracy.  The
thing is, though, he had the paper and a red pen right in front of him; in
order for you to report this type of error to me you are going to have to
type in enough information for me to find the location that you are
talking about.  Given that this is a very early draft, I don't think it
would be worth the effort to concentrate on *English* spelling and grammar
just yet.

In regards to the factual issues, one should notice that I have spoken of
things as "analogous to", "similar", etc.  This is because I am well aware
of the limitations of my speaking of sumti as being like nouns; taking the
analogy too closely would lead to problems in understanding in the long
run.  That is one reason that I don't know if what I have written there
will ever turn out to be generally useful in teaching Lojban; it works for
me, but I also know that I have quite a number of peculiarities that may
mean that in people who don't also manifest some given subset of those
peculiarities that my writing will my not help their understanding, but
even perhaps hurt it instead.

You may also want to take a look at the tables that I have listed at
http://fagricipni.com/lojban/about/ .  (Note this address is identical to
the last except where the last characters have been cut off.)  You'll want
to ignore the reference to my writing in Lojban; what I have is not worth
looking at at this time.  Now, these tables have an interesting history. 
About 10 years ago, I made a set of text tables (ie, columns generated by
using multiple spaces) with a note or two as cheatsheets for when writing
Lojban.  There are actually 24 of those files, so one can see that I not
even translated even half of them in to HTML.  I started translating a
couple a few years ago, but never got that far; that is why a few of them
have a "Sources" section, and looking at the HTML code will reveal a few
inconsistencies in the underlying HTML code, but I have decided to go
ahead and put them on the Internet anyway; I can still improve them after
they have been on the Internet.

There is one question that I have thought of while translating the one on
numbers that I would like to ask the computer scientists: would nalna'u be
a good word for NaN?

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