Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:45234) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R8W1A-0000hO-Cz; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:40:15 -0700 Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17sf3606355vcb.16 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:40:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=j5EJpkYU7KrmpDaoVOcl3v1B5JHgjTG87kts24PIOwQ=; b=4bMLAV7VezZ65lIVRH/HajhmdtpVXUPaJq+bkQJeO6Bldi/8yeX5kX2uvqkHGRggER k/t/a++mwGCDFZcEKoe8DydjYcqMSeDgFQw1QtSsbanhE6kCrxlFm7SCeWTBE0Fg+gZW GS94EkHbDitceyKI/u2ulAijIqMPfvmSaNgYE= Received: by 10.220.1.72 with SMTP id 8mr681313vce.20.1317123600385; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:40:00 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.28.171 with SMTP id c11ls9289499vdh.1.gmail; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.103 with SMTP id u7mr5243655vde.12.1317123598563; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.103 with SMTP id u7mr5243654vde.12.1317123598554; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from li60-119.members.linode.com (linode.feoh.org. [97.107.130.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6si11310568vdt.0.2011.09.27.04.39.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) client-ip=97.107.130.119; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by li60-119.members.linode.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8W0z-0002UB-SZ for lojban@googlegroups.com; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:39:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [lojban] English From: Kevin Reid In-Reply-To: <20110927093105.GD28218@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:39:57 -0400 Message-Id: <2EB920A3-1E8F-4251-8971-507A3CD12283@switchb.org> References: <3b5e0b1d-a58d-44ac-ae3f-a46ccdb2a8ed@t11g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <20110927093105.GD28218@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Original-Sender: kpreid@switchb.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) smtp.mail=kpreid@switchb.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:31, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:26:23AM +0200, Escape Landsome wrote: >>=20 >> Unless we are all Misters Spock here, it is very likely you >> already noticed that verbal ambiguity is a boon, at least in some >> situations=20 >=20 > Of course, and Lojban uses it *all the time*. >=20 > Where did you get this bizarre idea that Lojban is free of semantic > ambiguity? I like to say that Lojban is never ambiguous, but often vague. (The intended distinction being that you can't have multiple possible meani= ngs without including the region between them; the vagueness is among meani= ngs which form a relatively natural category, as opposed to ambiguity like = the three unrelated parses of "Time flies like an arrow".) --=20 Kevin Reid --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.