Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:51970) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R8YCh-0002d4-Qi; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 07:01:25 -0700 Received: by fxg17 with SMTP id 17sf8670455fxg.16 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=3MpCKrFRAb0RU5QTJTNBLztXqbJB164rLMX1bM/yKu8=; b=3LpSJaCQ2RACAUyWo/QXmc49/sIli86skEbhSc0j1CD2DswrZiBP+CYTJSRa9RBkSY 8zQGSZWmI85dbOyzBkpl6Kw58HqrMGuVf2hpObwE5gg4yhIh1s5YegETxa0XL/8hPvdI kW229EcHOY4X8VW1nw/f29P/7W+oaa4OuKf0M= Received: by 10.223.77.65 with SMTP id f1mr2755440fak.22.1317131994331; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.155.134 with SMTP id s6ls1894206bkw.3.gmail; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.130.69 with SMTP id r5mr1846368bks.4.1317131944559; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.130.69 with SMTP id r5mr1846367bks.4.1317131944542; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10si677164bkq.2.2011.09.27.06.59.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.53; Received: by mail-bw0-f53.google.com with SMTP id zt12so8131594bkb.26 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.146.13 with SMTP id f13mr2940128bkv.187.1317131944332; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.41.75 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7938912.4563.1316796152649.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqnk41> References: <7938912.4563.1316796152649.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqnk41> Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 09:59:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] milxe cunso jufra From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:42 PM, djandus wrote: > coi rodo > .i mi zbasu re jufra > .i lo rozgu poi frica valsi ke'a cu sumne co dunli zo'e lo ka titla There is a major problem here, which is that "sumne" is something that senses by smelling, not something that gives off a smell. Something that gives off a smell is a se sumne (which is perceived by something) or a se panci (which has a quality). I'd be more inclined to write lo rozgu poi se cmene lo drata [A rose which is called by another name] cu se panci lo titla [has the scent of a sweet thing]. And to be even more precise, I'd say: lo rozgu poi da'i se cmene lo cnino cu stodi lo ka se panci lo titla [a rose which is hypothetically named something new continues to have the quality of smelling sweet] --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.