Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:42654) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R8zs2-0002Lq-3H; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:48 -0700 Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16sf6404980vws.16 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:subject:mime-version:from:x-priority :in-reply-to:date:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=l5zxJWdkXuckbZfLHE8kuXWXN/N3x2fALXv2jWplmJo=; b=GRehbnhzOLzcBilD2DZXeq5h4rTd0/tfaTrsg6A1+Y0JvaJ3vHVEri2KmiBpTZyXtU vWLJX6gJG6N7bOgHbutBVoVNZbFAzQsg3ppdydM1qbBrBpyl4GwK+HB/1LhH38cUMYs/ CVlvHwmZCfaJPPMOMMZrD0nFgzvsCoA+oDKCY= Received: by 10.220.199.75 with SMTP id er11mr1734432vcb.51.1317238353163; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.117.139 with SMTP id r11ls2150517vcq.2.gmail; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.25.72 with SMTP id a8mr6231269vdg.19.1317238351839; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.25.72 with SMTP id a8mr6231268vdg.19.1317238351826; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from li60-119.members.linode.com (linode.feoh.org. [97.107.130.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bh5si13526613vdc.3.2011.09.28.12.32.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) client-ip=97.107.130.119; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by li60-119.members.linode.com with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8zrr-0002lw-81 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 19:32:31 +0000 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: English Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Kevin Reid X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <4473a36a9fee6daa569ed43987bab77b.squirrel@QuestMail.FutureQuest.net> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:32:30 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4473a36a9fee6daa569ed43987bab77b.squirrel@QuestMail.FutureQuest.net> To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Original-Sender: kpreid@switchb.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 97.107.130.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of kpreid@switchb.org) smtp.mail=kpreid@switchb.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sep 28, 2011, at 15:17, fagricipni wrote: > To the one who thought English is the best thing in the world: > Can you give me a dynamic equivalent translation in to English > of a question that I often want to ask (though with different > first sumti) to English-speakers? > > pau la kres. mo do > > If I ask "Who is Chris?", I get an identity when what I am > asking for is a relationship; ie, friend, friend's child, > child's friend, friend of friend (note that "child" here is to > be interpreted as immediate descendant, not any non-adult). > However, asking the question "How is Chris related to you?", I > get the answer "He is not" because I am being mis-interpreted > as asking about a _familial_ relationship. "Who is Chris to you?" -- Kevin Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.