Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:56781) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R91JD-0003AA-RE; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:04:59 -0700 Received: by wwe5 with SMTP id 5sf47629wwe.16 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:04:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Jtfxden3CqZcOccil6oaZjT2FtUdrn6+4vVSib/su5w=; b=IYUg/RPPSws4/4Q1kapv86bhyNfI6mGCrQ4FXWdnsulklpH1vxrPar8RObQ9mieWE5 iapbWKqcxUA3GzC4ZRB65gxALLOyBUE3jBoOjwOHnCOwmo1V3HfeEVgGC+wESRLmAqYE mA8+ucI1sLiiq6yMz9Ew9qKSX7m/zPHN1NRL4= Received: by 10.216.164.6 with SMTP id b6mr3017739wel.8.1317243881969; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.6.209 with SMTP id a17ls5103884wba.0.gmail; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.211.210 with SMTP id w60mr330166weo.4.1317243868983; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.150.224 with SMTP id z74mswej; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:50:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.198.139 with SMTP id eo11mr854505wbb.1.1317243054880; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.198.139 with SMTP id eo11mr854504wbb.1.1317243054853; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-dy0-f44.google.com (mail-dy0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fr9si1950980wbb.3.2011.09.28.13.50.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.44; Received: by dye36 with SMTP id 36so228dye.3 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.11.200 with SMTP id s8mr47260636pbb.9.1317243054209; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:50:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.1.4 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 13:50:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4473a36a9fee6daa569ed43987bab77b.squirrel@QuestMail.FutureQuest.net> From: Sid Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:20:14 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: English To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cntrational@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cntrational@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5314a5954398a04ae068ceb X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec5314a5954398a04ae068ceb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Or "What is Chris to you". On 29 September 2011 01:02, Kevin Reid wrote: > On Sep 28, 2011, at 15:17, fagricipni wrote: > > > To the one who thought English is the best thing in the world: > > Can you give me a dynamic equivalent translation in to English > > of a question that I often want to ask (though with different > > first sumti) to English-speakers? > > > > pau la kres. mo do > > > > If I ask "Who is Chris?", I get an identity when what I am > > asking for is a relationship; ie, friend, friend's child, > > child's friend, friend of friend (note that "child" here is to > > be interpreted as immediate descendant, not any non-adult). > > However, asking the question "How is Chris related to you?", I > > get the answer "He is not" because I am being mis-interpreted > > as asking about a _familial_ relationship. > > "Who is Chris to you?" > > -- > Kevin Reid > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec5314a5954398a04ae068ceb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or "What is Chris to you".

On 2= 9 September 2011 01:02, Kevin Reid <kpreid@switchb.org> wrote:
On Sep 28, 2011, at 15:17, fagricipni wrote:

> To the one who thought English is the best thing in the world:
> Can you give me a dynamic equivalent translation in to English
> of a question that I often want to ask (though with different
> first sumti) to English-speakers?
>
> pau la kres. mo do
>
> If I ask "Who is Chris?", I get an identity when what I am > asking for is a relationship; ie, friend, friend's child,
> child's friend, friend of friend (note that "child" here= is to
> be interpreted as immediate descendant, not any non-adult).
> However, asking the question "How is Chris related to you?",= I
> get the answer "He is not" because I am being mis-interprete= d
> as asking about a _familial_ relationship.

"Who is Chris to you?"

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