Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:59119) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R9Uxk-00050Y-OI; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:45 -0700 Received: by fxg17 with SMTP id 17sf3173980fxg.16 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ou4oQOnhR47OgxHqWeHP64fdcyDrcehBDDkcNoIksSk=; b=hs9cf8bnqcVQujn68brAmd2OCd/Oa2KRO3GFac4LS2XTKTS50lnpb3i5yfLdKREbMN wy951MtQpyC2z7iOaoPItEUGqP8hPUUotAE7xSwN9rMrWAVXgttxMSco70abtewVEjIc c6ndFZdG9FAt9QoxTQByF1ViiBx1u3ccS65fY= Received: by 10.223.14.88 with SMTP id f24mr3023702faa.14.1317357870487; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.134.87 with SMTP id i23ls1190175bkt.2.gmail; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.144.154 with SMTP id z26mr2520775bku.10.1317357869516; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.144.154 with SMTP id z26mr2520774bku.10.1317357869496; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f42.google.com (mail-fx0-f42.google.com [209.85.161.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x12si1673836faa.0.2011.09.29.21.44.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.42; Received: by fxbb27 with SMTP id b27so2532556fxb.15 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.98.146 with SMTP id q18mr925024fan.57.1317357869265; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.197 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 21:44:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <25314851.4130.1317353559542.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqcr11> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:44:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] roroi From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c10e2d6f38704ae21475b X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0015174c10e2d6f38704ae21475b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Also, {zo roroi} is actually {zo ro roi}, which isn't even grammatical. mu'o mi'e latros On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Sorry, I meant to say aren't. PAroi, for any PA, is a tense marker. > > PAVroi, for any PA rafsi, is a lujvo meaning "x1 happens PA times in > interval x2". > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> Because pavroi is a lujvo, but roroi is a cmavo cluster. >> >> Also, pavroi and paroi are equivalent in meaning. >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:32 PM, djandus wrote: >> >>> So, a morphology question: why does pavroi use pa's rafsi but roroi >>> doesn't use ro's? I would have thought that any PA word would follow the >>> same rules... >>> >>> ki'u ma zo roroi na pilno lo rafsi be zo ro .i zo pavroi pilno lo rafsi >>> be zo pa .i mi jinvi lo du'u ro cmavo be ma'oi pa. cu se pilno ta'i pa tadji >>> .i >>> >>> mu'o mi'e djos >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "lojban" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/cKsCC4DbzXQJ. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015174c10e2d6f38704ae21475b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, {zo roroi} is actually {zo ro roi}, which isn't even grammatical.=

mu'o mi'e latros

On Thu, = Sep 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, I meant to say aren't. PAroi, fo= r any PA, is a tense marker.

PAVroi, for any PA rafsi, is a lujvo me= aning "x1 happens PA times in interval x2".


On Thu, Sep= 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wro= te:
Because pavroi is a lujvo, but roroi is a cm= avo cluster.

Also, pavroi and paroi are equivalent in meaning.


On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at = 9:32 PM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com> wrote:
So, a morphology question: why does pavroi u= se pa's rafsi but roroi doesn't use ro's? I would have thought = that any PA word would follow the same rules...

ki'u ma=A0zo roroi na pilno lo rafsi be zo ro .i zo pavr= oi pilno lo rafsi be zo pa .i mi jinvi lo du'u ro cmavo be ma'oi pa= . cu se pilno ta'i pa tadji .i

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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. m= i patfu do zo'o
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