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The implication is the following:
lo ka bu'a cu rokci

Does that clear it up?

mu'o mi'e latros

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:45 AM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:51:14 AM UTC-5, .alyn.post. wrote:
>>
>> .i la camgusmis cu ckaji lo rokci
>>
>
> So, I'm confused. I thought that even though {ckaji} is defined to have a
> ka-based x=E2=82=82 place, when using it you must say {lo ka}. Is that no=
t the case,
> or is this just a special case of eliding {ka} when it's usage would be
> obvious? (something which I thought would be left to {tu'a}...)
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> mu'o mi'e djandus
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The implication is the following:<br>lo ka bu&#39;a cu rokci<br><br>Does th=
at clear it up?<br><br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e latros<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote">On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:45 AM, djandus <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:jandew@gmail.com">jandew@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im"><br><br>On Thursday, Sept=
ember 29, 2011 7:51:14 AM UTC-5, .alyn.post. wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">
.i la camgusmis cu ckaji lo rokci<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div=
>So, I&#39;m confused. I thought that even though {ckaji} is defined to hav=
e a ka-based x=E2=82=82 place, when using it you must say {lo ka}. Is that =
not the case, or is this just a special case of eliding {ka} when it&#39;s =
usage would be obvious? (something which I thought would be left to {tu&#39=
;a}...)</div>
<div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e djandus</div><div class=3D"im">

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