Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:65258) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R9dd8-0000mr-1T; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:00:04 -0700 Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17sf1003421vcb.16 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/Ryf5cxXZsmHPXhcF5tM5jGj/9MhP5KieAhOUboC2/Y=; b=zFmwr4DzfX2DuGktTUdMHrjWHGXx9k+aVDoJLCYle3GXyKaEuQtzAc0SOYwfIsDy62 IynsRuul8YwSyvxkb21qWuuWc0FXE24FoqTvfEXrcf5GZW4nvrmzo+FJymhEukqt3Ynf yXuKfgrU+Y6V3QXIrVStUGqoFseS2/9NNVZhk= Received: by 10.220.157.130 with SMTP id b2mr2727449vcx.49.1317391189077; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.24.1 with SMTP id t1ls703200vcb.4.canary; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.68.130 with SMTP id w2mr7490665vdt.34.1317391188470; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.68.130 with SMTP id w2mr7490664vdt.34.1317391188435; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f174.google.com (mail-vx0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6si2392401vdt.0.2011.09.30.06.59.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.174; Received: by mail-vx0-f174.google.com with SMTP id fk10so1749751vcb.5 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.19.34 with SMTP id b2mr42560675pbe.60.1317391188093; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.1.4 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 06:59:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14452346.542.1317376742903.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqma37> References: <3b5e0b1d-a58d-44ac-ae3f-a46ccdb2a8ed@t11g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <20110927093105.GD28218@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20110927095409.GF28218@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <28016915.1353.1317127240254.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqjw35> <14452346.542.1317376742903.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqma37> From: Sid Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:29:08 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: English To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cntrational@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cntrational@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cntrational@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5216019cbe91604ae290968 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec5216019cbe91604ae290968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why not do it like Uyghur, Kashmiri, and Kurdish, which make vowels mandatory? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_alphabet#Present_situation On 30 September 2011 15:29, Muhammad Nael wrote: > *You mean the Arabic orthography you proposed? Rejected by whom?* > > By none... That's the problem! And on that, I found that while Arabic > letters give Lojban a pleasant look, it's not fast enough in writing since > Lojban uses separate vowels while Arabic is an abjad. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/Dlnc5-wi2BgJ. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec5216019cbe91604ae290968 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why not do it like Uyghur, Kashmiri, and Kurdish, which make vowels mandato= ry?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_alphabet#Present_situation

On 30 September 2011 15:29, Muhammad Nael <muhammad.nae= l@gmail.com> wrote:
By none... That's the problem! And on that, I found that while Ar= abic letters give Lojban a pleasant look, it's not fast enough in writi= ng since Lojban uses separate vowels while Arabic is an abjad.

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You mean= the Arabic orthography you proposed? Rejected by whom?