Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:38941) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R9eVz-0001Cd-9q; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:46 -0700 Received: by yxj17 with SMTP id 17sf2767320yxj.16 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Ou7g5xek0cXCsUev/BfXhEREmd3r5YYxXcbZhBvod5w=; b=WEs4tBo0ozxVQEsz20brXwkm1wE3OpD9mY1NErHCXVfiXBzs504ZTnv+qLNoAqjELr AxQQFM6CBlrFTaUfrRqBE9woeadUJdInnVhZX4qt/r/M36KDARRdAiUk1oQSVR90VIsf jrB+Moi7p6Tr8ycKF2UznaF1xUroH5+bgAocc= Received: by 10.236.173.8 with SMTP id u8mr1870107yhl.14.1317394590477; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.155.146 with SMTP id s18ls784317ibw.2.gmail; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.133.6 with SMTP id f6mr936641ict.32.1317394588716; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.133.6 with SMTP id f6mr936640ict.32.1317394588701; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (mail-iy0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z10si871844icv.7.2011.09.30.07.56.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.171; Received: by mail-iy0-f171.google.com with SMTP id v1so3287732iag.16 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.142.196 with SMTP id t4mr2894645icu.84.1317394588452; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.170.65 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Sep 2011 07:56:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14452346.542.1317376742903.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqma37> References: <3b5e0b1d-a58d-44ac-ae3f-a46ccdb2a8ed@t11g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> <20110927093105.GD28218@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20110927095409.GF28218@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <28016915.1353.1317127240254.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqjw35> <14452346.542.1317376742903.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqma37> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 16:56:28 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: English From: Remo Dentato To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8b0079484204ae29d448 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --90e6ba6e8b0079484204ae29d448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Muhammad Nael wrote: > *You mean the Arabic orthography you proposed? Rejected by whom?* > > By none... That's the problem! And on that, I found that while Arabic > letters give Lojban a pleasant look, it's not fast enough in writing since > Lojban uses separate vowels while Arabic is an abjad. > > This is rather normal here, Muhammad. We all make proposals because we like Lojban and want to help improving it, they are rarely formally accepted. Proposals are more important than acceptance to me. I think it's extremely important that someone explores these corners of the language. One day, maybe, the idea of a Lojban orthography will be revamped and we will already have material we can discuss about. On jbotcan I've posted (just for fun, not a real proposal) examples using the shavian and the deseret alphabets. And we also have the larlermorna described there! Don't let the apparent lack of interest to your proposal stop you from continuing your permanence in the jbogu'e! May I suggest you post the pdf on jbotcan (www.jbotcan.org)? It will make easier to find it in the future. remod -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --90e6ba6e8b0079484204ae29d448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Muhammad Nael = <muhammad.n= ael@gmail.com> wrote:
By none... That's the problem! And on that, I found that while Ar= abic letters give Lojban a pleasant look, it's not fast enough in writi= ng since Lojban uses separate vowels while Arabic is an abjad.


This is rather normal here, Muhammad. We all m= ake proposals because we like Lojban and want to help improving it, they ar= e rarely formally accepted. Proposals are more important than acceptance to= me.

I think it's extremely important that someone explores these corner= s of the language. One day, maybe, the idea of a Lojban orthography will be= revamped and we will already have material we can discuss about. On jbotca= n I've posted (just for fun, not a real proposal) examples using the sh= avian and the deseret alphabets. And we also have the larlermorna described= there!

Don't let the apparent lack of interest to your proposal stop you f= rom continuing your permanence in the jbogu'e!

May I suggest yo= u post the pdf on jbotcan (www.jbotcan.o= rg)? It will make easier to find it in the future.

remod

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You mean= the Arabic orthography you proposed? Rejected by whom?