Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:51612) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RBnwm-0001Vd-7o; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:17 -0700 Received: by bkaq10 with SMTP id q10sf2828839bka.16 for ; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uALIQOvrq8DpHJQ5J7HIgYXBredCCuLZ4SM7X6KHhdI=; b=QiEVKHei5t2xSJlBnQuYHOdu1EOaL6ax8sClibFBy40JeO0jB42ibDDbYb47SSqQaT wEN3zL07yjdgq+yxZPX0GactQyoskHphDQvdUkOLzVU8yrEi/qsxmkNG48nJb2chqVMS nXzuf352gV+Imgk0pTbs3nWpW/mOH4qaD0FzU= Received: by 10.223.91.139 with SMTP id n11mr353953fam.8.1317907502011; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.143.15 with SMTP id s15ls372205bku.1.gmail; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.141.199 with SMTP id n7mr165361bku.0.1317907500623; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.141.199 with SMTP id n7mr165360bku.0.1317907500601; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f48.google.com (mail-bw0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10si869070bkq.2.2011.10.06.06.25.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.48; Received: by mail-bw0-f48.google.com with SMTP id zu5so4536340bkb.35 for ; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.150.134 with SMTP id y6mr541979bkv.135.1317907500358; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 06:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.41.75 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Oct 2011 06:24:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1315774215.25455.YahooMailRC@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110912225255.GG28088@gonzales> <1315882379.97949.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110914041335.GO28088@gonzales> <55EFAEEE-10A9-4002-951E-7BD949DC29F7@yahoo.com> <20110914232007.GC6492@gonzales> <1316055853.22283.YahooMailRC@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20110916000632.GD7274@gonzales> Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:24:59 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cba9867db9504aea14038 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0015175cba9867db9504aea14038 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:23 PM, John E. Clifford wrote: > [1] Sincei have doubts about what {zo'e} means, I'm not sure what {mii na > klama zo'e} means, but I suppose it must be either "I do not go there", > where "there" is some place obvious from context (the value of the Skolem > function for the argument mi) or "I don't go anywhere", if it's a particular > quantified variable, certainly not you second choice. With my usual habit of injecting mibzdi nu xajmi into long abstruse threads, I will just ask the following question about your first sentence: zo sincei zo'u se mupli fu'e xu la lyrens.oLIvieis .a la'acu'i ke la melPOmenis .a la talaiys fu'o --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015175cba9867db9504aea14038 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:23 PM, John E. Cliffo= rd <kali9putra= @yahoo.com> wrote:
[1] Sincei have doubts about wha= t {zo'e} means, I'm not sure what {mii na klama zo'e} means, bu= t I suppose it must be either "I do not go there", where "th= ere" is some place obvious from context (the value of the Skolem funct= ion for the argument mi) or "I don't go anywhere", if it'= s a particular quantified variable, certainly not you second choice.
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=A0 With my usual habit of injecting mibzdi nu xajmi into long abstrus= e threads, I will just ask the following question about your first sentence= :=A0 zo sincei zo'u se mupli fu'e xu la lyrens.oLIvieis .a la'a= cu'i ke=A0la melPOmenis .a la talaiys fu'o
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