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Are you familiar with tatoeba.org?
{.i xu do to'e se cnino la'oi tatoeba.org}

Also, I have found that longer translations are more helpful for me.
{.i ji'a za'i tu'a lo clamau xe fanva ku tu'a mi plixau}

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:19 AM, fagricipni <lojban707@fagricipni.com> wrote:

> In addition to the memorization that I have decided to
> implement by repeatedly writing things down and using the
> quizzing program that have written and made available, I'm
> trying "little" translations.  I'm taking a lot of my things to
> translate from books, but I am trying to stay within fair use
> limits and always post the source for the ones that I am
> posting.
>
> My current attempt is a translation is of:
>
> "Man's mind is his basic tool of survival"
> (Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged)
>
> I have decided to use "prenu" as the translation of "Man".
>
> My translation is:
>
> jicmu pilno lo menli be lo prenu be'o lo za'i renvi
>
> I have intentionally left two blanks here; both of which are
> intended to be clearly intended to be filled with the same
> "lo prenu" that is a linked sumti of "lo menli": one is the
> first place of "pilno" the other is the first place of the
> abstracted "renvi".
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Are you familiar with <a href=3D"http://tatoeba.org">tatoeba.org</a>?<br>{.=
i xu do to&#39;e se cnino la&#39;oi <a href=3D"http://tatoeba.org">tatoeba.=
org</a>}<br><br>Also, I have found that longer translations are more helpfu=
l for me.<br>
{.i ji&#39;a za&#39;i tu&#39;a lo clamau xe fanva ku tu&#39;a mi plixau}<br=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:19 AM, fagricipni =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojban707@fagricipni.com">lojban707=
@fagricipni.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">In addition to the memorization that I have=
 decided to<br>
implement by repeatedly writing things down and using the<br>
quizzing program that have written and made available, I&#39;m<br>
trying &quot;little&quot; translations. =A0I&#39;m taking a lot of my thing=
s to<br>
translate from books, but I am trying to stay within fair use<br>
limits and always post the source for the ones that I am<br>
posting.<br>
<br>
My current attempt is a translation is of:<br>
<br>
&quot;Man&#39;s mind is his basic tool of survival&quot;<br>
(Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged)<br>
<br>
I have decided to use &quot;prenu&quot; as the translation of &quot;Man&quo=
t;.<br>
<br>
My translation is:<br>
<br>
jicmu pilno lo menli be lo prenu be&#39;o lo za&#39;i renvi<br>
<br>
I have intentionally left two blanks here; both of which are<br>
intended to be clearly intended to be filled with the same<br>
&quot;lo prenu&quot; that is a linked sumti of &quot;lo menli&quot;: one is=
 the<br>
first place of &quot;pilno&quot; the other is the first place of the<br>
abstracted &quot;renvi&quot;.<br>
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e .arpis.<br><br>

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