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John E. Clifford, On 09/10/2011 00:56:
> About {zi'o}, there are two possible
> ways of reading, say, {zi'o klama}. One as a relation among places,
> paths and modes of transportation that hold of a quartet of such just
> in case some traveler take the path from the second place to the
> first along the path using the transportation mode. The second is
> much the same except that the traveller does not enter in, we just
> have a relation among the quartets with no further indication of why
> they are in that relation. The second view, while formally possible,
> is surely not what is intended; why would we use {klama} if the
> things related were never part of a trip?

{zi'o klama} surely does mean what your Second View says it means. It make =
make sense for describing, say, a transport route.

IMO the best rule would be for empty places to be fillable by zi'o or by zo=
'e, but not for zi'o to be a possible value of zo'e. Disambiguation could b=
e effected by using an overt zi'o or zo'e. Allowing zi'o as a value of zo'e=
 would permit undisambiguable ambiguity -- of course a very bad thing. The =
advantage of letting empty places be fillable by covert zi'o is that it wou=
ld overcome the problem of superfluous gismu places that usage tends to for=
get about.

--And.

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