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Subject: Re: [lojban] Mass import into jbovlaste ?
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What I have in my head is very much not like the current version.
I have a general feeling that the way we structure definitions isn't
actually good for how Lojban words actually work, and I want to make
something that can be used for a formal dictionary, or flashcards,
or glossing.

The only thing I have is a document Tene and I worked on,
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U6Q9u4_ZwqZzyy7MW-1dfpkx4oxlc0seF82zp2FlqzE/edit?hl=en_US

I would be more than happy to meet on skype or something and flesh
out the concepts (i.e. to work together to produce a more sane
document).

-Robin

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 07:25:21PM -0400, Luke Bergen wrote:
> Sounds like a fun project for a rails app.  Are there any design
> documents/specifications or anything?
> 
> Looking through jbovlaste I see a lot of things like "in the
> sense" to describe an english translation of a lojban word.  Are
> there any other gotchas/things to keep in mind for someone who was
> designing a jbovlaste 2.0?
> 
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm interested, but I don't yet have the necessary skill. Give me a couple
> > more years of college and I might, then I'm more than happy to volunteer.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Robin Lee Powell <
> > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> >
> >> It's lightly maintained by me, I just don't like doing it.
> >>
> >> https://github.com/lojban/jbovlaste/tree/master/bin -- the "snarf"
> >> scripts are the ones that were used for automated import.  If you
> >> can update one of those, great.  If you can simply get things in the
> >> same format as the main gismu list, I can probably make it work.
> >>
> >> If there's someone around who isn't offended by Perl + Mason and
> >> wants to help with jbovlaste, that'd be awesome.
> >>
> >> Way *way* better, though, would be someone who wants to work on
> >> its successor; we have various ideas floating around about how that
> >> would look.  It would be very interesting, hard work.  We don't care
> >> much what language you do it in, although selecting something that
> >> other Lojbanists know and can tolerate would be good, and I have
> >> some sense of what those are if people actually are interested.
> >>
> >> -Robin
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:38:17AM -0600, .alyn.post. wrote:
> >> > FWIW, here is the jbovlaste source code:
> >> >
> >> >   https://github.com/lojban/jbovlaste
> >> >
> >> > By poking around in there, you might be able to determine whether
> >> > mass import is supported or what you'd have to do to make that
> >> > happen.
> >> >
> >> > I'm given to understand that this tool is still unmaintained, so I
> >> > don't think there is anyone around to answer questions about it,
> >> > the source code has to stand on it's own.
> >> >
> >> > -Alan
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:18:31AM -0700, najrut wrote:
> >> > >    Revising Goldendict dictionaries I started wondering whether I
> >> could merge
> >> > >    some of them.
> >> > >    But the main Goldendict dictionary is regularly being updated from
> >> > >    jbovlaste database.
> >> > >    So is there any possibility of importing Leo Molas's names of
> >> countries
> >> > >    and languages (like gugde'usu) at once into jbovlaste ?
> >> > >    In my turn I can prepare a file ready for such import.
> >> > >    Just tell me it's format and I'll send it to you or apply changes
> >> myself
> >> > >    (which I'm obviously afraid of).
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