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On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:19 AM, fagricipni <lojban707@fagricipni.com> wrote:

> In addition to the memorization that I have decided to
> implement by repeatedly writing things down and using the
> quizzing program that have written and made available, I'm
> trying "little" translations.  I'm taking a lot of my things to
> translate from books, but I am trying to stay within fair use
> limits and always post the source for the ones that I am
> posting.
>
> My current attempt is a translation is of:
>
> "Man's mind is his basic tool of survival"
> (Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged)
>
> I have decided to use "prenu" as the translation of "Man".
>
> My translation is:
>
> jicmu pilno lo menli be lo prenu be'o lo za'i renvi
>
> I have intentionally left two blanks here; both of which are
> intended to be clearly intended to be filled with the same
> "lo prenu" that is a linked sumti of "lo menli": one is the
> first place of "pilno" the other is the first place of the
> abstracted "renvi".
>
  I would think you would be better off moving the lo prenu out of the be
level and making it the x1 of the main bridi ("lo prenu cu jicmu pilno lo
menli lo za'i renvi") since a) who else's mind would he use? and b) you want
to make as assertion ("Man basically uses a mind for survival"), not just an
observative ("There's a basic user of a mind of man for survival").  But if
you want to keep the emphasis of the original, put the mind up front: "lo
menli be lo prenu cu jicmu tutci lo z'i renvi")
     --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:19 AM, fagricipni <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojban707@fagricipni.com">lojban707@fagr=
icipni.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">In addition to the memorization =
that I have decided to<br>implement by repeatedly writing things down and u=
sing the<br>
quizzing program that have written and made available, I&#39;m<br>trying &q=
uot;little&quot; translations. =A0I&#39;m taking a lot of my things to<br>t=
ranslate from books, but I am trying to stay within fair use<br>limits and =
always post the source for the ones that I am<br>
posting.<br><br>My current attempt is a translation is of:<br><br>&quot;Man=
&#39;s mind is his basic tool of survival&quot;<br>(Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugge=
d)<br><br>I have decided to use &quot;prenu&quot; as the translation of &qu=
ot;Man&quot;.<br>
<br>My translation is:<br><br>jicmu pilno lo menli be lo prenu be&#39;o lo =
za&#39;i renvi<br><br>I have intentionally left two blanks here; both of wh=
ich are<br>intended to be clearly intended to be filled with the same<br>
&quot;lo prenu&quot; that is a linked sumti of &quot;lo menli&quot;: one is=
 the<br>first place of &quot;pilno&quot; the other is the first place of th=
e<br>abstracted &quot;renvi&quot;.<br></blockquote>
<div>=A0 I would think you would be better off moving the lo prenu out of t=
he be level and making it the x1 of the main bridi (&quot;lo prenu cu jicmu=
 pilno lo menli lo za&#39;i renvi&quot;) since a) who else&#39;s mind would=
 he use? and b) you want to make as assertion (&quot;Man basically uses a m=
ind for survival&quot;), not just an observative (&quot;There&#39;s a basic=
 user of a mind of man for survival&quot;).=A0 But if you want to keep the =
emphasis of the original, put the mind up front: &quot;lo menli be lo prenu=
 cu jicmu tutci lo z&#39;i renvi&quot;)</div>

<div>=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa</div>
<div>=A0</div></div></div>

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