Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:39445) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RDfni-0001W8-4t; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:41 -0700 Received: by gya6 with SMTP id 6sf14149246gya.16 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VRjP/im7EJtYU7XQ858bAd0tcRp1KV/U/wfToS/93lg=; b=4d5WfsomJKIizjj2GPMZoKHYbTS0qXSa4oQbxy+h9tltHBSPz0PelC8bfq3+2nsG/M WMJGiprJ8ZWseLWneKtDyhXjSH9ZnykD1/jkcTztWMMD9LmCXnP8RkjKMkgnKNTKt3Ne xchsjlk9W7YEoPBTaP/FIUh0VW9iIHH9G/ICA= Received: by 10.146.61.19 with SMTP id j19mr1224273yaa.7.1318352845241; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.90.250.15 with SMTP id x15ls23115716agh.5.gmail; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.190.68 with SMTP id d44mr18724471yhn.1.1318352843344; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.190.68 with SMTP id d44mr18724468yhn.1.1318352843329; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f50.google.com (mail-yw0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g3si53203ybn.0.2011.10.11.10.07.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.50; Received: by mail-yw0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 13so8023213ywm.37 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.79.170 with SMTP id i30mr31424584yhe.94.1318352843118; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.95.44 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:07:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5912174.624.1318343435526.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbat14> From: Luke Bergen Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:07:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Goodbye GoldenDict ! Welcome fricukt ! To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30050c20e71a0804af08f0f7 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf30050c20e71a0804af08f0f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awww, I'm glad to hear that it was well-liked. I'll see about getting the link fixed and putting it on the lojban.org software page or something when I get home. The fundamental issue is, if you want an application that can be very tightly integrated with any arbitrary application (i.e. looking up a gismu that's in a text document opened in notepad.exe on windows) then you need a downloaded application. There are pros and cons for this. A webapp of som= e kind has pros and cons as well. hmmmm. This requires some thought. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I think you should get together with Luke, who wrote QuickDict way back i= n > the day, and then, much to my own disappointment, stopped working on it. > > QuickDict was also intended as an alternative to GoldenDict, and it was > able to look up entries directly from jbovlaste, IIRC. If it weren't for = the > fact that the link to DL it appears to be broken, I'd still be using it. > > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM, najrut wrote: > >> Although I adore GoldenDict as >> * free open-source >> * full of features >> * cross-platform >> dictionary software >> >> I realised several disadvantages of it >> Firstly, it has to be INSTALLED >> Secondly, it has to be installed separately for each operating system >> having another distibutive for each of them >> Then you don't have an opportunity to perform full-text search within >> notes on valsi which is sometimes needed. >> After all, many devices lie smartphones are not covered by this app at a= ll >> ! >> >> So let me introduce fricukt alpha version based on TiddlyWiki and >> Goldendict dsl dictionaries. >> Here is where yo= u >> can get the latest build (fricult***.htm file). >> >> This is how it is supposed to work. >> It's just a webpage that should be understood by most devices (as HTML i= s >> covering more and more devices) >> It performs full text search. >> Currently only one dictionary =EF=BC=88simplified gismu=EF=BC=89is inclu= ded. >> But it's inside the file itself. >> >> So you just download and run it. >> Type any gismu or translation into the "sisku" field and you are done. >> >> As the underlying code is simple everyone is free to improve fricukt. >> I was able to run it even from my very old phone. >> >> What do you think of fricukt (bearing in mind that it's alpha version) ? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/iDrj-9cmYzkJ. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --20cf30050c20e71a0804af08f0f7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable awww, I'm glad to hear that it was well-liked. =C2=A0I'll see about= getting the link fixed and putting it on the lojban.org software page or something when I get home.

<= div> The fundamental issue is, if you want an application that can be very tight= ly integrated with any arbitrary application (i.e. looking up a gismu that&= #39;s in a text document opened in notepad.exe on windows) then you need a = downloaded application. =C2=A0There are pros and cons for this. =C2=A0A web= app of some kind has pros and cons as well.

hmmmm. =C2=A0This requires some thought.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
I think you should get together with Luke, = who wrote QuickDict way back in the day, and then, much to my own disappoin= tment, stopped working on it.

QuickDict was also intended as an alternative to GoldenDict, and it was= able to look up entries directly from jbovlaste, IIRC. If it weren't f= or the fact that the link to DL it appears to be broken, I'd still be u= sing it.


On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM, najrut <ruler11post@gmail.com> wrote:
Although I adore GoldenDict as
* free open-source
* full of f= eatures
* cross-platform
dictionary software
=
I realised several disadvantages of it
Firstly, it= has to be INSTALLED
Secondly, it has to be installed separately for each operating system = having another distibutive for each of them
Then you don't ha= ve an opportunity to perform full-text search within notes on valsi which i= s sometimes needed.
After all, many devices lie smartphones are not covered by this app at= all !

So let me introduce fricukt alpha version b= ased on TiddlyWiki and Goldendict dsl dictionaries.
Here= =C2=A0is where you can get the latest build (fricult***.htm file).

This is how it is supposed to work.
It's = just a webpage that should be understood by most devices (as HTML is coveri= ng more and more devices)
It performs full text search.
Currently only one dictionary =EF=BC=88simplified gismu=EF=BC=89is inc= luded.
But it's inside the file itself.

<= div>So you just download =C2=A0and run it.
Type any gismu or tran= slation into the =C2=A0"sisku" field and you are done.

As the underlying code is simple everyone is free to im= prove fricukt.
I was able to run it even from my very old phone.<= /div>

What do you think of fricukt (bearing in mind that= it's alpha version) ?

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