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On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:50 PM, H. Felton <lojban707@fagricipni.com> wrote:

> I've re-read http://dag.github.com/cll/5/7/
>
> On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 11:13 -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > You don't need the be'o.
>
> This bit is accurate; though.
>
> > It's only required when linking multiple sumti, or in other words,
> it's only needed when using bei.
>
> But, according to the discussion after
> this example(http://dag.github.com/cll/5/7/#e10 ), your rule is
> not entirely accurate; there are other cases where the "be'o"
> cannot be elided.  Since this is the case, I will include
> "be'o" in at least some places where it could be elided until I
> fully understand the rules for its elision.
>

Ah, I hadn't thought of the {lo broda be lo brode brodi} case, in which be'o
is needed to distinguish between {lo brode brodi} and {lo brode ku brodi}.

I wasn't aware of the NOI case at all.

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 7:50 PM, H. Felton <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojban707@fagricipni.com">lojban707@fagr=
icipni.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I&#39;ve re-read <a href=3D"http://dag.github.com/cll/5/7/" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://dag.github.com/cll/5/7/</a><br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 11:13 -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:<br>
&gt; You don&#39;t need the be&#39;o.<br>
<br>
</div>This bit is accurate; though.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; It&#39;s only required when linking multiple sumti, or in other words,=
<br>
it&#39;s only needed when using bei.<br>
<br>
</div>But, according to the discussion after<br>
this example(<a href=3D"http://dag.github.com/cll/5/7/#e10" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://dag.github.com/cll/5/7/#e10</a> ), your rule is<br>
not entirely accurate; there are other cases where the &quot;be&#39;o&quot;=
<br>
cannot be elided. =A0Since this is the case, I will include<br>
&quot;be&#39;o&quot; in at least some places where it could be elided until=
 I<br>
fully understand the rules for its elision.<br></blockquote></div><br>Ah, I=
 hadn&#39;t thought of the {lo broda be lo brode brodi} case, in which be&#=
39;o is needed to distinguish between {lo brode brodi} and {lo brode ku bro=
di}.<br>
<br>I wasn&#39;t aware of the NOI case at all.<br><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#3=
9;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk.=
 mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D =
)<br>
<br>

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