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On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 01:00:08PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
>    While I disagree with najrut, I have to say that I really don't think it
>    matters. I think I know Robin well enough to know it's not going to
>    happen.
> 
>    Robin hasn't even promised to upload the words. All he's said is
>    basically, when he has the time, he might do it.
> 
>    Doing anything beyond merely uploading them, any kind of special handling,
>    would require even more time and effort.
> 
>    Messing with jbovlaste in any way is very low on Robin's priority list,
>    especially considering his desire for jbovlaste 2.0 to be created to
>    replace it.
> 
>    Conclusion: Robin might, /might/, at some time in the future upload all
>    the ISO words to jbovlaste. But nothing more. But more likely, najrut will
>    have to put them on there himself if he wants them there this year.
> 
>    As to the words themselves, my reason for not wanting them is because when
>    it comes to all or nothing situations, I prefer nothing. The conversation
>    that spawned those two huge lists was about the cultural gismu, and the
>    fact that some cultures had a gismu, whereas others did not, and that this
>    was an example of Lojban /not/ being culturally neutral. It was decided
>    that the only way to be culturally neutral was either for all cultures to
>    have there own words, which resulted in a huge list of words based on ISO
>    codes of counrties and languages, or for none to have their own word,
>    which resulted in the creation of this list:
> 
>    [1]banra'a
>    [2]klura'a
>    [3]cemra'a
>    [4]jdara'a
>    [5]selgu'era'a
>    [6]tutra'a
> 
>    For example, {lu lo glibau to mintu la'oi English toi banra'a la'oi U.K.
>    li'u mintu lu lo glibau cu brito lo bangu li'u .e zoi gy. English is the
>    language of the U.K. .gy}.
> 
>    Personally, I would much rather remember 6 words that can be used for
>    /any/ cultural reference, than a huge slew of words that can each only be
>    used for one.
> 
>    On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 11:13 AM, .alyn.post.
>    <[7]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
> 
>      On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 09:40:14AM -0700, najrut wrote:
>      > * *Also if you vote up one word from that list all the others should
>      be voted
>      > * *up automatically. They are all equal. None of them is better than
>      any
>      > * *other.
>      >
> 
>      I need to request again that you preserve the threading of e-mail
>      messages when you reply to them. *It is not clear at all to me
>      which message you reply to, when I read only your reply. *I cannot
>      tell what this e-mail is in reply to.
> 
>      Will you include the message you are replying to in your reply? *I
>      will not be able to continue a conversation with you if I am
>      confused by the ordering of your messages.
> 
>      -Alan
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>    5. http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/selgu%27era%27a
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