Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:37502) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RFBeT-0003gZ-RS; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:23 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf3457889bka.16 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=cI5czQjg+EuEULPnE4/h3xynkTJ/afBRvLaZUuRedcc=; b=I2dt0xl/ON9jQyDP8NsYA7SbwpoJUTw5k53ANvaZ8F0l5RsjDzhxLQXX/mFeHeI0Ox xf1ej4HAlF3wc57laQLYl2xzJvkXhuZqNFK1LTKEw1VzneiXwZ8WyfILntoIrhoAdBVw W2qhBpu8FFNhzWGu//6cK0meXGoQQaywVkbj0= Received: by 10.223.79.131 with SMTP id p3mr1669965fak.4.1318713607526; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.15 with SMTP id q15ls636477bks.0.gmail; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr1524146bkv.6.1318713606138; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr1524145bkv.6.1318713606114; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f45.google.com (mail-bw0-f45.google.com [209.85.214.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10si2104014bkq.2.2011.10.15.14.20.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.45; Received: by mail-bw0-f45.google.com with SMTP id t2so5304303bka.32 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.7.18 with SMTP id b18mr13080681fab.31.1318713605854; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.16 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:20:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] Embedded bridi and scope From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174784ee09969204af5cf0ef X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0015174784ee09969204af5cf0ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 coi lojbo A fairly simple question: how do embedded bridi interact with scope? Do they have their own scope? A motivating example, that if you can answer it should answer almost all my questions, is the following: .i mi ba'o terpa lo nu no da jundi is equivalent to which of the following: .i no da zo'u mi ba'o terpa lo nu da jundi .i mi ba'o terpa lo nu no da zo'u da jundi Intuition and convenience would say it's the latter, but I am really not 100% sure. mu'o mi'e latros -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015174784ee09969204af5cf0ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable coi lojbo

A fairly simple question: how do embedded bridi interact w= ith scope? Do they have their own scope? A motivating example, that if you = can answer it should answer almost all my questions, is the following:

.i mi ba'o terpa lo nu no da jundi
is equivalent to which of the= following:
.i no da zo'u mi ba'o terpa lo nu da jundi
.i mi = ba'o terpa lo nu no da zo'u da jundi

Intuition and convenien= ce would say it's the latter, but I am really not 100% sure.

mu'o mi'e latros

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