Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:56981) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RFBoP-0003kM-8K; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:38 -0700 Received: by yws29 with SMTP id 29sf1627198yws.16 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=GKflPNcXustVUjsTPTL17NcXK2VexHJP8Re6XkBf7lU=; b=x0VRYgkgVk3R/uUEtOX8bDLpgiWii1JP4azMLJ2kPV2yEIFVs3wdxz2e8GijRQ+0zj VoUNVqE9uC2IykEw6JBMb1PUwUirHrnCBQZpx21eORoMpaA2VxDdmgW3Nm6m8fimL0dp w3k5TFCBzjNwJji5/Q/hvmLbTga3xWIenMQkQ= Received: by 10.236.76.105 with SMTP id a69mr3180589yhe.2.1318714224275; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.101.205.40 with SMTP id h40ls17359844anq.7.gmail; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.78.41 with SMTP id f29mr19196356yhe.2.1318714223478; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.78.41 with SMTP id f29mr19196354yhe.2.1318714223466; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-gy0-f177.google.com (mail-gy0-f177.google.com [209.85.160.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y45si2593442yhl.1.2011.10.15.14.30.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.177; Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10so2255059gyd.8 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.154.137 with SMTP id h9mr19186897yhk.26.1318714223345; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.95.44 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.95.44 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:30:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:30:23 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Embedded bridi and scope From: Luke Bergen To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf303b4427d7c07804af5d14e4 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf303b4427d7c07804af5d14e4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't know if it's the right answer and I certainly can't back up my opinion to the extent that xorxes or johnC can, but the latter is how I read it On Oct 15, 2011 5:20 PM, "Ian Johnson" wrote: > coi lojbo > > A fairly simple question: how do embedded bridi interact with scope? Do > they have their own scope? A motivating example, that if you can answer it > should answer almost all my questions, is the following: > > .i mi ba'o terpa lo nu no da jundi > is equivalent to which of the following: > .i no da zo'u mi ba'o terpa lo nu da jundi > .i mi ba'o terpa lo nu no da zo'u da jundi > > Intuition and convenience would say it's the latter, but I am really not > 100% sure. > > mu'o mi'e latros > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --20cf303b4427d7c07804af5d14e4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I don't know if it's the right answer and I certainly can't = back up my opinion to the extent that xorxes or johnC can, but the latter i= s how I read it

On Oct 15, 2011 5:20 PM, "Ian Johnson"= <blindbravado@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
coi lojbo

A fairly simple question: how do embedded bridi interact w= ith scope? Do they have their own scope? A motivating example, that if you = can answer it should answer almost all my questions, is the following:

.i mi ba'o terpa lo nu no da jundi
is equivalent to which of the= following:
.i no da zo'u mi ba'o terpa lo nu da jundi
.i mi = ba'o terpa lo nu no da zo'u da jundi

Intuition and convenien= ce would say it's the latter, but I am really not 100% sure.

mu'o mi'e latros

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