Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:44264) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RFZ7C-0005Gy-Iq; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:23:39 -0700 Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4sf2328726pzk.16 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:23:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-pgp-key :x-pgp-keyid:x-cunselcu'a-valsi:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=sGHl14HrkmBk6LqHl3+1bBFiMcNN0/NTvbr9UvJ4XwE=; b=YwSVv8Z01H3nIAM5Bplwx3l//jVsBm9LXVp3Yn0EYRamicL7ggylEAwdViuJYH+Dyo A531pM29XSSqGzXHTWSb+Zi/wh4KZhoMqGws/aoxWBDGjrZ8rDDKIJT/3dBlb0B2/tgB X1BHoQsP0lCLR0JwX3E2eGITVvo9CyFOCnOek= Received: by 10.68.60.132 with SMTP id h4mr3523464pbr.20.1318803801768; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:23:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.33.194 with SMTP id t2ls16765646pbi.0.gmail; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.38.38 with SMTP id d6mr22891042pbk.4.1318803801090; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.38.38 with SMTP id d6mr22891041pbk.4.1318803801081; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org. [192.94.73.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lf12si17287883pbb.2.2011.10.16.15.23.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.94.73.19; Received: from gonzales.homelinux.org (root@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9GMNKri008382 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 22:23:20 GMT Received: from martin by gonzales.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1RFZ72-0000Zr-4V for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:23:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:23:20 -0400 From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable Message-ID: <20111016222320.GD21114@gonzales> References: <20111015155009.GA5916@gonzales> <20111015185726.GC3779@gonzales> <20111015203444.GD3779@gonzales> <20111015221511.GF3779@gonzales> <20111015232240.GG3779@gonzales> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8w3uRX/HFJGApMzv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111015232240.GG3779@gonzales> X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: linsi User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: mbays@sdf.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mbays@sdf.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --8w3uRX/HFJGApMzv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline * Saturday, 2011-10-15 at 19:22 -0400 - Martin Bays : > So am I taking "{lo} -> {zo'e noi}" too literally? Actually, what do you make of this argument for not taking it too literally: {lo rozgu cu xunre} == {zo'e noi rozgu cu xunre} == {zo'e rozgu gi'e xunre} == {zo'e xunre gi'e rozgu} == {zo'e noi xunre cu rozgu} == {lo xunre cu rozgu} Martin --8w3uRX/HFJGApMzv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk6bWVcACgkQULC7OLX7LNZjkgCg1Sd+MzHxEog9mq3OCjc/wVtw 14oAmgP3eV3nU9vd0x+C2+wmuXdXghty =gZX7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8w3uRX/HFJGApMzv--