Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:63460) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RFakX-0005nZ-Tp; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:18 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf4413770bka.16 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wEOSJnHRpYIsQ0c8kIHNi21folRFjUlQ8hCM32CoekQ=; b=WFvsYDP02ffBknQ9MqeNrar9StgEVY3fAZAtbB7iTaDzJumnMQ2bLSypuig2ln9jmk HzEwl9n8n1sYRiBbuD4iU5sjQdP1TSsZT/QJjXqvDenwb4rOtVGER2E5qvUDQoNy6H/V d4Tl1kWgWHsiBI+ndn3NvDimx1E2O6AIoV1sY= Received: by 10.223.63.10 with SMTP id z10mr2451789fah.11.1318810083365; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.130.15 with SMTP id q15ls1197354bks.0.gmail; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr1972620bkv.6.1318810082535; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr1972619bkv.6.1318810082522; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com (mail-bw0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a16si2723423bku.3.2011.10.16.17.08.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.41; Received: by mail-bw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id zu5so5518672bkb.28 for ; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.17.11 with SMTP id q11mr20768956faa.13.1318810082224; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.39.35 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:08:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1318730637.60588.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1318202744.44997.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111013043308.GD3367@gonzales> <4E981179.1030805@gmail.com> <20111015155009.GA5916@gonzales> <20111015185726.GC3779@gonzales> <20111015203444.GD3779@gonzales> <20111015221511.GF3779@gonzales> <1318730637.60588.YahooMailRC@web81308.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 21:08:02 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 11:03 PM, John E Clifford wr= ote: > Whence these unbound variables y'all keep talking about. =A0Every variabl= e without > an explicit quantifier in Lojban has an implicit {su'o}. =A0You can't mak= e > sentences with unbound variables. We were not discussing a full sentence. We were discussing the sub-expression "lo xasli noi da darxi" within the full expression "su'o da poi te cange cu ponse lo xasli noi da darxi". In the sub-expression in question (which was a candidate antecedent for "ri"), "da" is unbound, which makes the sub-expression an inadequate antecedent for a "ri" that is outside the scope of the binding quantifier. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.