Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:53279) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RGJA3-0002aw-W5; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:38 -0700 Received: by wwg7 with SMTP id 7sf1877295wwg.16 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=cvN8GV1F98jT602TSZB0YtJsTlMGV1Irv7+px9bMWx4=; b=c3s9NzDSlDxZ7hKAWMACu2kGJ8YiG6n06mewPpMN/RsDNvlD5I+dBb8Jji97NlkhgM +jeJ/IKSpTfdJNBWzSzz3N58Lct+mbPBAHTp69Cx3CGy0/CZGXrJdgzzdC0dLW1JjBu+ r2AHyGlyitKW5CWWTEO27wMhFb0LOk6NYEPHY= Received: by 10.216.229.195 with SMTP id h45mr1519669weq.0.1318980801694; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.53.196 with SMTP id g44ls365000eec.0.gmail; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.10.85 with SMTP id 61mr319032eeu.4.1318980800709; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.10.85 with SMTP id 61mr319031eeu.4.1318980800688; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f177.google.com (mail-ey0-f177.google.com [209.85.215.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x14si2021717eef.2.2011.10.18.16.33.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.177; Received: by mail-ey0-f177.google.com with SMTP id 3so1315099eye.36 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.91.143 with SMTP id n15mr1779167fam.23.1318980800503; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.13.231 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 16:33:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111018225736.GA5069@gonzales> References: <20111013043308.GD3367@gonzales> <4E981179.1030805@gmail.com> <20111014225934.GC3111@gonzales> <4E98D899.7080608@gmail.com> <20111015200404.GB3090@gonzales> <4E9A39C9.3010605@gmail.com> <20111016050503.GA21114@gonzales> <4E9B77B1.2050608@gmail.com> <20111018032657.GO21114@gonzales> <20111018225736.GA5069@gonzales> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:33:20 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > > I agree that it isn't perfect terminology, because what's on the kind > end in one situation might in other situations be on the mundane end, > and vice-versa. Whether or not there are 'absolute mundanes' isn't > really important - it's the mixing of the levels in a single {lo}-phrase > that causes the problems. That almost sounds like something I would say! I agree you shouldn't mix levels in the same lo-phrase. Any resolution into lower levels you may want to do has to come from something outside of the lo-phrase, the lo-phrase will only provide the uppermost level for any given situation. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.