Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:51499) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RGNXx-00044R-Sg; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:14:37 -0700 Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30sf1857166qyk.16 for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:14:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=8WqVis8AoC9hKmr83GESH0Ly1h5iii7q17pGPfFQoqc=; b=1oKQcnZWPtuM7V7uKRlmnaWu/puN0bOX5bDJHDsvKb+VFQ+f1LwNPyr23ibShl8Kbn XTz8Jmm0gOR3NsP+41EklJWk2X21eO6baqsqWNiZZfkUdQ+56/8Bc6yXlEcABXT0EwPX sv0+0Fp82wkvxkn9HxBP7Es2rpbwS8c51JEhY= Received: by 10.229.215.208 with SMTP id hf16mr265948qcb.24.1318997660724; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:14:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.184.209 with SMTP id cl17ls3067261qab.0.gmail; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.33.205 with SMTP id i13mr3208492qad.5.1318997660165; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.33.205 with SMTP id i13mr3208491qad.5.1318997660156; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s41si2241965qcq.3.2011.10.18.21.14.19; Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=xpiJhaXcY9g2L5+PPpDCkNh+KVu4STcfCxbrT9KJo/A= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=6eLm-LxrWz8A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=xCksi75bM_OPjvNrNg4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:48384] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id E7/AB-02292-B9E4E9E4; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:14:19 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7F31FCD5 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:14:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 00:14:12 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <1318202744.44997.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111018033124.GA30548@gonzales> <4E9E3C5F.2000606@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4E9E3C5F.2000606@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201110190014.14668.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday 18 October 2011 22:56:31 And Rosta wrote: > Is there consensus on what fractional quantifiers should mean? I find it > hard to think of an valid argument for piro being distinct from ro. piro is numerically equal to pa. "piro donri" and "pa donri" mean the same, except for the implied contrast (a whole day, not just a morning; one day, not two or more). On Tuesday 18 October 2011 23:59:58 And Rosta wrote: > Martin Bays, On 18/10/2011 04:26: > > Does every mammal give birth to live young? > > At the species level yes (afaik), at the organism level no. lo'e .ornitorinku cu na'e fadni mabru ki'u lo nu na'o se jbena re sovda .i lo zalgosu ji'a cu sovmabru mu'omi'e .pier. -- Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.