Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:43705) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RGba8-0002dx-6s; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:47 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf2588033bka.16 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=W92j8SdQACi4HQ0/s633XvLbPVaY5GUzkaQZGQrs2i8=; b=13/3AWFv7aGSQotdPxKXlOX2eylQql7cXbjcjIFSgrVFB4uNgTrmqL8lkjYh8hDQe1 n2PxLKicIyLMVBz3Phh7UzVnjA6dSiESWa0x+IT4MOsvUBXanzIRZ1V+nhlzeUkOolnb /mEz+ywGXCi/uQSTBTbYO9RVhfE2PAmr1BE1k= Received: by 10.223.76.140 with SMTP id c12mr389756fak.2.1319051610048; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.24.220 with SMTP id x68ls563524eex.3.gmail; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.219 with SMTP id o69mr216254wei.9.1319051608997; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.219 with SMTP id o69mr216253wei.9.1319051608984; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f51.google.com (mail-ww0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fd1si3298705wbb.0.2011.10.19.12.13.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.51; Received: by mail-ww0-f51.google.com with SMTP id 32so2255692wwe.20 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.28.96 with SMTP id l32mr3028052wbc.50.1319051608836; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (cpc1-pres4-0-0-cust401.pres.cable.virginmedia.com. [80.193.151.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n21sm11518915wbp.2.2011.10.19.12.13.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E9F2154.9010009@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 20:13:24 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.22) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/3.1.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable References: <1318202744.44997.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111018033124.GA30548@gonzales> <4E9E3C5F.2000606@gmail.com> <201110190014.14668.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <201110190014.14668.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Pierre Abbat, On 19/10/2011 05:14: > On Tuesday 18 October 2011 22:56:31 And Rosta wrote: >> Is there consensus on what fractional quantifiers should mean? I find it >> hard to think of an valid argument for piro being distinct from ro. > > piro is numerically equal to pa. "piro donri" and "pa donri" mean the same, > except for the implied contrast (a whole day, not just a morning; one day, > not two or more). Ah, so "pi mu plise" is "half an apple" rather than "one in every two apples", then. That must have been settled after my intensive involvement ended. What ended up being the way of doing "one in every two apples"? --And. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.