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Luke Bergen, On 19/10/2011 05:23:
>     And Rosta:
> I think it would be good to have other gadri based on a model in
> which there are no types, only instances.
>
>
> I'm only barely able to follow this conversation

me too!

> but couldn't that be
> what "le" is thought of as? My understanding of "le" is that you must
> have an actual broda in mind. I don't know the technical definitions,
> but that sounds like it could be thought of as an "instance" to me.

No -- firstly because "le broda" points to a specific thing, but not necess=
arily to an actual broda, hence its equivalence to "lo co'e voi broda", whe=
re co'e gives the specificity and voi gives the nonveridicality (the not ne=
cessarily actually being broda); and secondly because in the types-only mod=
el, everything that is an actual broda is a type.

But one can be hopeful that Martin can outline for lVi an instance-only sem=
antics, which perhaps the BPFK might consider.

--And.

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