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[66.94.237.138]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id n75si2614706yhe.3.2011.10.19.19.15.53; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.138 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.237.138; Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2011 02:15:52 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.114] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2011 02:15:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Oct 2011 02:15:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 893885.19549.bm@omp1019.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 50766 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Oct 2011 02:15:52 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ropU02wVM1nSe3u14Q15_aVANPK8nGCX9wNsl4Ee9E2zDZh ChD1G2iMKBfGz1E6Os4W_1Dm8fJE2UJtGu3YRLu77nJq4HpV7iT9WpDfv47G uBfhhnSMFfZ4r7ZptWrnt9TVbXKU1x_Mf8O.x2fTNPHQ3rp7EQr9lp3d6yK_ EdIEZh_C.miOQENqtxYu4SVtG.c8aEyFurV1yui90CVwhePZhmqn4BM5zlH6 uo1mh_kNSvQY40ff93jdaFDe_TDnr8EHAEwmh.Xw9PaQTEdoiLLhxm6zrWvG LWAUIncv1bgSguBgj.4_wbYYl1WwlrHl0oMgd.4CzagAzwY7OiF25WHTyn9K sHV5gGPQFhtKkMq5Xqq5uKr0sa5ES27c5xsAUBXgyT6cNIQfbeHJkSNTsqdZ yUq5KpOUb63Z68PKhNP8yZWumtgiQSmc71axSPuIcMHdp8S7bBFnUXe_7Vvx lDbgi4nkCS0VyYeBAKshq8jCMWmIRH4n7XldnLlo_ra17bU.n7oX2mkhPGT0 t2BJzUV3tedt.2JLOZoz7SKU- Received: from [99.92.108.41] by web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:15:52 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/574 YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <1318202744.44997.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111018033124.GA30548@gonzales> <4E9E3C5F.2000606@gmail.com> <201110190014.14668.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4E9F2154.9010009@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1319076952.87751.YahooMailRC@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 19:15:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <4E9F2154.9010009@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.138 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / I think that "one of every two" came out as "1/2" or some such. I am not confident that {pi mu plise} means "half an apple", which might better be something about an apple half. {pi mu lo plise} is a bunch of apples half the size of {lo plise}. ----- Original Message ---- From: And Rosta To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, October 19, 2011 2:13:24 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable Pierre Abbat, On 19/10/2011 05:14: > On Tuesday 18 October 2011 22:56:31 And Rosta wrote: >> Is there consensus on what fractional quantifiers should mean? I find it >> hard to think of an valid argument for piro being distinct from ro. > > piro is numerically equal to pa. "piro donri" and "pa donri" mean the same, > except for the implied contrast (a whole day, not just a morning; one day, > not two or more). Ah, so "pi mu plise" is "half an apple" rather than "one in every two apples", then. That must have been settled after my intensive involvement ended. What ended up being the way of doing "one in every two apples"? --And. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.