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This is a lot of random things, some of which could probably be answered by 
better cll reading, but I've already been on there for the past {so'i} 
hours, so... yeah.

So, I was thinking about {PA ka'o PA}, and how it's automatically in the 
rectangular imaginary space (a + bi), and I was wondering what it would take 
to swap to polar (a e^ib). This would obviously be {PA te'o te'a ka'o PA}, 
which in some cases could be obnoxious to use. I then became curious about 
if I could assign a word for it, etc. etc. I mean, could I assign the word 
{te'a'o} to be exp()? (I'm mainly asking about the "Would that word violate 
any morphology rules?" part.)

Then going to declaration of functions, I remembered a question I had a 
while back. Can you use pro-valsi assignment cmavo to set words you want to 
define? As in, there always comes a time when a speaker wants to make up a 
word for something rather than use {broda} -- so, he might define a 
less-temporary brivla that he expects to use much later in a similar 
context. He could, of course, use {smuni}, but that would imply the brivla 
is official -- it makes more sense to me to be able to use {cei} to define 
it.

One last thing that came up while I was browsing the cll regards modal 
sentence connection. (http://dag.github.com/cll/9/7/) The cll doesn't 
explicitly provide examples of this, but I expect from the text that you can 
use modal connection to imply any abstraction, as with
{mi djuno do .idu'ibo mi djuno lo mi xance} or
{mi djuno du'igi do gi lo mi xance} for
"I know you like the back of my hand"

Assuming {mi drani}, does it then make sense to use relativised pro-sumti 
inside modally connected bridi, like so:
{mi djuno do .i fi'o se banli bo do pendo ce'u} for
"My knowing you has greatness in property being-befriended-by-you"
which is a really obscure example, I know, but bear with me here. Does that 
construction make sense?

The end of this is I'd love to have a translation for Bilbo's great line, "I 
don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than 
half of you half as well as you deserve." I've gotten started with the 
following:
{mi na djuno pi mu do .idu'ibo??? .i mi nelci me'i pi mu do ???}
Not only am I stuck with how to relate the clauses, but I'm also stuck with 
how to translate "should"...

mu'o mi'e djandus

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<div>This is a lot of random things, some of which could probably be answer=
ed by better cll reading, but I've already been on there for the past {so'i=
} hours, so... yeah.</div><div><br></div><div>So, I was thinking about {PA =
ka'o PA}, and how it's automatically in the rectangular imaginary space (a =
+ bi), and I was wondering what it would take to swap to polar (a e^ib). Th=
is would obviously be {PA&nbsp;te'o te'a ka'o PA}, which in some cases coul=
d be obnoxious to use. I then became curious about if I could assign a word=
 for it, etc. etc. I mean, could I assign the word {te'a'o} to be exp()? (I=
'm mainly asking about the "Would that word violate any morphology rules?" =
part.)</div><div><br></div><div>Then going to declaration of functions, I r=
emembered a question I had a while back. Can you use pro-valsi assignment c=
mavo to set words you want to define? As in, there always comes a time when=
 a speaker wants to make up a word for something rather than use {broda} --=
 so, he might define a less-temporary brivla that he expects to use much la=
ter in a similar context. He could, of course, use {smuni}, but that would =
imply the brivla is official -- it makes more sense to me to be able to use=
 {cei} to define it.</div><div><br></div><div>One last thing that came up w=
hile I was browsing the cll regards modal sentence connection. (<a href=3D"=
http://dag.github.com/cll/9/7/">http://dag.github.com/cll/9/7/</a>) The cll=
 doesn't explicitly provide examples of this, but I expect from the text th=
at you can use modal connection to imply any abstraction, as with</div><div=
>{mi djuno do .idu'ibo mi djuno lo mi xance} or</div><div>{mi djuno du'igi =
do gi lo mi xance} for</div><div>"I know you like the back of my hand"</div=
><div><br></div><div>Assuming {mi drani}, does it then make sense to use re=
lativised pro-sumti inside modally connected bridi, like so:</div><div>{mi =
djuno do .i fi'o se banli bo do pendo ce'u} for</div><div>"My knowing you h=
as greatness in property being-befriended-by-you"</div><div>which is a real=
ly obscure example, I know, but bear with me here. Does that construction m=
ake sense?</div><div><br></div><div>The end of this is I'd love to have a t=
ranslation for Bilbo's great line, "I don't know half of you half as well a=
s I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deser=
ve." I've gotten started with the following:</div><div>{mi na djuno pi mu d=
o .idu'ibo??? .i mi nelci me'i pi mu do ???}</div><div>Not only am I stuck =
with how to relate the clauses, but I'm also stuck with how to translate "s=
hould"...</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e djandus</div>

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