Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]:39703) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RH6Yn-0007rt-5g; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:18:29 -0700 Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4sf3527258pzk.16 for ; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:18:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-pgp-key :x-pgp-keyid:x-cunselcu'a-valsi:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=6q8aLHiqZIGbmP4yHCv7n6Lj6Sc0c+RK7mUHgLVrdFc=; b=ln5Pdyabeh4QRazKG/RGjoJP9jQxsm1qirqjPeEV9hBq48gYk0nkxNNLXsbzQ2NQRO XkEf13xX33hGS7SGv5XcoP+oYOPtN7honYV6Cl/13XD6d4yZhxhEbwqo/cExE42ow8RZ +Fe8QM64YuNciOW9NFLZ87FDTy5oI+whe8tlE= Received: by 10.68.27.201 with SMTP id v9mr2069012pbg.5.1319170364108; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:12:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.14.72 with SMTP id n8ls707095pbc.0.gmail; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.21.229 with SMTP id y5mr13906664pbe.1.1319170363592; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.21.229 with SMTP id y5mr13906663pbe.1.1319170363580; Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (mx.sdf.org. [192.94.73.19]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l3si9233562pbd.0.2011.10.20.21.12.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 20 Oct 2011 21:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.94.73.19; Received: from gonzales.homelinux.org (root@sverige.freeshell.org [192.94.73.4]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.14.5/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p9L4CgUO026594 for ; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 04:12:43 GMT Received: from martin by gonzales.homelinux.org with local (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1RH6TK-0008J0-Kv for lojban@googlegroups.com; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:12:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 00:12:42 -0400 From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable Message-ID: <20111021041242.GC28229@gonzales> References: <1318202744.44997.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <201110201551.34676.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4EA0D3C2.4050708@gmail.com> <201110202325.23106.phma@phma.optus.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201110202325.23106.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: stuzi User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: mbays@sdf.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of mbays@sdf.org designates 192.94.73.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mbays@sdf.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Thursday, 2011-10-20 at 23:25 -0400 - Pierre Abbat : > On Thursday 20 October 2011 22:06:58 And Rosta wrote: > > When I was last up-to-date with developments, nothing was official, but= I > > think I can recall the rudiments of our best efforts at that time to > > construct a consistent and rational gadri system. As far as I now recal= l, > > "half an apple" would be "lo pi mu plise", while "pi mu lo plise" would= be > > the "one in every two apples" one. >=20 > If "pimu lo plise" means "one in every two apples", then "pa lo plise" sh= ould=20 > mean "every apple". I think "lo pimu plise" is "a half apple" But {lo PA broda cu broda} is meant to be a tautology. Half-apples aren't apples. --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk6g8ToACgkQULC7OLX7LNagfACdGvqdvQrBZWP+oGHjeNMIMbdi 11UAoKSKts/R3zrJgODnOtkycS8EGLmN =CuOP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uh9ZiVrAOUUm9fzH--