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[66.94.236.226]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id e44si4535600yhk.0.2011.10.21.08.49.08; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.236.226 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.236.226; Received: from [66.94.237.196] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2011 15:49:08 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.103] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2011 15:49:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2011 15:49:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 648400.11234.bm@omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 87725 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2011 15:49:08 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1LBA6wYVM1l9TfxW1Tj4NTWv6KBApBdCe4G4Rl98t9IOYHx iAl82JR3fSFoRz9mMhlRJp52HFBkX9bXqsSBA8cZRsFhgrkVhs57vnTEBEiQ YlAUamf2GBLDRa6dz61vyrBWaegBMypo6u5FzCE0Yf8Cs7FNp1L7ievlsMAP To_Y1FCxUl.AVHXNzPNUnK4geuisxMDKQpx8hQmi6dRoBLoySnqIeFfWju9Y Mc3e1XO3oAKPyc_1DqbmuExE9qM5jGfd9NGuGnP2QP3ruFwCMfYYw7Biax5o JMw9mgk6e2VlUFwuZqAV2L4j80LFr47tWmri01990DkzlqZbw_9Hf4z.Q.N2 1qX4dcConDcU7.ZoZPtXkWhmzVE97yFd.Y49GceINbjXWjnfWrPsjT3Y95Oz LXaRmYXs9uK.ZHImccxU7XO9zTDjvd8R0krht83t_29YPo0uDsxcMkWYAOUZ Ew6oNw0LwdVsn.BLqv3k- Received: from [99.92.108.41] by web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:49:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/574 YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <1318202744.44997.YahooMailRC@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <201110201551.34676.phma@phma.optus.nu> <4EA0D3C2.4050708@gmail.com> <201110202325.23106.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20111021145602.GE28229@gonzales> Message-ID: <1319212148.86431.YahooMailRC@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 08:49:08 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <20111021145602.GE28229@gonzales> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.236.226 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / I think that claim is roughly correct. {pi ro lo broda} just comes back to lo broda. Fragments of things are thing fragments (sorry, I can't remember the words right now). ----- Original Message ---- From: Martin Bays To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri, October 21, 2011 9:56:02 AM Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable * Thursday, 2011-10-20 at 23:25 -0400 - Pierre Abbat : > On Thursday 20 October 2011 22:06:58 And Rosta wrote: > > When I was last up-to-date with developments, nothing was official, but I > > think I can recall the rudiments of our best efforts at that time to > > construct a consistent and rational gadri system. As far as I now recall, > > "half an apple" would be "lo pi mu plise", while "pi mu lo plise" would be > > the "one in every two apples" one. > > If "pimu lo plise" means "one in every two apples", then "pa lo plise" should > mean "every apple". {pa pi no lo plise} would have to mean "all the apples" (together). So integers and reals act differently as quantifiers, even when they're equal as numbers. It's only quite ugly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.