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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:52 AM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:
> Martin Bays, On 21/10/2011 05:12:
>>
>> But {lo PA broda cu broda} is meant to be a tautology. Half-apples
>> aren't apples.

Unless you use a Banach-Tarski knife to cut them in two.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banach%E2%80%93Tarski_paradox

> So {lo pi mu plise cu plise} fails that test, but {lo pi mu djacu cu djacu}
> passes it.

What about:

    lo pi mu grana cu grana
    lo pi mu pluta cu pluta
    lo pi mu girzu cu girzu
    lo pi mu pagbu cu pagbu
    lo pi mu namcu cu namcu?

> Following a line of thought that that observation initiates, I note that by
> the Goatleg rule, {su'o plise} is okay but {su'o djacu} is not and would
> instead have to be {za'u djacu} or {ci'i djacu}.

Instead of saying that all Lojban predicates are count, I'd rather say
that they are all mass, and that quantifiers induce an implicit
classifier on them, which is often context dependent.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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