Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:63080) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RIKYB-0002rY-TK; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:26:50 -0700 Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16sf5655107vws.16 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:26:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:reply-to:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references :subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jydqapJA1iCJAnic3w1V+TbNxMB1bFpG2Wf8beNjads=; b=u6M7oic9ve6tQzD35Q9UgIDRt9Smwm99AtQ0RwmzjEJ/o8TLnaB/9sgQz0sKTzTE5S WADoOgTiktvXKfSdlbK3U1MBtl+inYexlY3IuY2POpx8IQOys2QT77mTugtg9gcO5zgp QeCsac2fs0R3PEUE76bLg6maF0u5s68l713aU= Received: by 10.220.210.78 with SMTP id gj14mr1854383vcb.56.1319462798441; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:26:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.107.205 with SMTP id c13ls11810954vcp.2.gmail; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.2.201 with SMTP id 9mr1379863vck.20.1319462797963; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:26:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 06:26:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Muhammad Nael Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <12771495.560.1319462797316.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> In-Reply-To: References: <4ae1bfdf-61ba-4539-84e0-0a56a67480fd@u13g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> <17558590.1835.1319383267925.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> <201110231635.52021.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1319423266.86720.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <12044470.729.1319460986934.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbza28> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lojban and PR MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: muhammad.nael@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of muhammad.nael@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=muhammad.nael@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_559_6531166.1319462797314" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_559_6531166.1319462797314 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm being reasonably optimistic thinking it'd take *less* than 5 years to *make *a Lojban successor... I'll have a week off in the next few days, so I won't debate the new-vocab issue now... I never said that current users should switch, only that they should work on a better platform for possible near-future adherents. I study linguistics as a hobby, but I can't agree or disagree with the specific issue you cited. In any case, Lojban-2, Loccan-3, Loghnat,... etc should be built in a pyramid model taking into account all the points ye have raised countless times in which I've no doubt; ie. there should be simpler 'layers' of the same language that wouldn't need the learner to know the language perfectly before he can use it minimally! I may not have made my point very clear; I apologize but I'm very busy today. Regards, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/jZGKrMwjkSoJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_559_6531166.1319462797314 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm being reasonably optimistic thinking it'd take less than 5 = years to make a Lojban successor... I'll have a week off in the next= few days, so I won't debate the new-vocab issue now...
I never said th= at current users should switch, only that they should work on a better plat= form for possible near-future adherents.
I study linguistics=  as a hobby, but I can't agree or disagree with the specific issue you= cited. In any case, Lojban-2, Loccan-3, Loghnat,... etc should be built in= a pyramid model taking into account all the points ye have raised countles= s times in which I've no doubt; ie. there should be simpler 'layers' of the= same language that wouldn't need the learner to know the language perfectl= y before he can use it minimally!
I may not have made my point ve= ry clear; I apologize but I'm very busy today.

Reg= ards,
MN

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