Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:40413) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RIO5C-0005QD-2Z; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:13:15 -0700 Received: by wwg7 with SMTP id 7sf12422769wwg.16 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:12:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=s+15NRgA65NgpiKBjHdcK05dZ264Iry+7uQctIxFlIA=; b=iBczCa+6Z4hWECO91haSsD2FST/MKenUF2XuA7QdfglIuDVl/auwg6V83ycVNKP4+C aVLGrsQTczP1uEz2ZYzA30uZuhuz/wdgna/rm+zb+T/2ONxGBPdIiwC75npUizr2stdz MsMa38WduplYNCSJm2gq3eOcEySCVKan/u5ps= Received: by 10.216.133.166 with SMTP id q38mr688713wei.11.1319476151401; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:09:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.24.220 with SMTP id x68ls1765916eex.3.gmail; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.8.65 with SMTP id 41mr1936057eeq.2.1319476150251; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.8.65 with SMTP id 41mr1936056eeq.2.1319476150235; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f173.google.com (mail-ey0-f173.google.com [209.85.215.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x14si13190157eef.2.2011.10.24.10.09.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.173; Received: by mail-ey0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 6so6657869eyh.4 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.140.223 with SMTP id e73mr10804605wej.9.1319475974564; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (87-194-76-177.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.76.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i29sm40064767wbp.22.2011.10.24.10.06.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EA59B03.4080500@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 18:06:11 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lojban and PR References: <4ae1bfdf-61ba-4539-84e0-0a56a67480fd@u13g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> <17558590.1835.1319383267925.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> <201110231635.52021.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1319423266.86720.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <12044470.729.1319460986934.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbza28> <12771495.560.1319462797316.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Luke Bergen, On 24/10/2011 14:36: > Is it just me, or does "making a better lojban" come up every 6 months or= so? > > Not to derail your thread/enthusiasm NH, but I swear to god, if we had as= many people learning lojban as we have trying to redesign it / design locc= an, our user base would be huge Isn't it to be expected, the situation you describe? The two largest groups= of Lojbanists are those who are attracted to CLL Lojban because it is well= -documented and has a user-community and those who are attracted to Lojban = because they're interested in a logical language and the Lojban/Loglan comm= unity is the only community of people with that interest. --And. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.