Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:34080) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RIPKF-0005pK-Bj; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:33:25 -0700 Received: by ywa17 with SMTP id 17sf5938193ywa.16 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=K0OOCFwD6ZJUmyqcgLbTJA8dUaUVCaQg+W10S5JKJM4=; b=a7g5rNJAoDpTMUW42S4RQ/h9ZIt7/ch5ctfZgSXT4rLDm/EFmK9hF3XHt1aRzdWJ4B /cvLqXzrn8xAg6sZxEQjV6CSFxUfbqrMw3eeIIl9juD+X+Tj9f0yFV8ZJgRY2HmDBlcV EmzxxVJRHfYJ+AnhWTxRPMGRen6hUsyNcH/f4= Received: by 10.236.180.130 with SMTP id j2mr6756072yhm.17.1319481133840; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.100.237.8 with SMTP id k8ls11452621anh.2.gmail; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.33.4 with SMTP id l4mr1837747anj.35.1319481130476; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.33.4 with SMTP id l4mr1837744anj.35.1319481130448; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com (mail-yw0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f15si10458433anq.1.2011.10.24.11.32.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.41; Received: by mail-yw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 17so3243800ywa.28 for ; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.108.225 with SMTP id q61mr4705611yhg.66.1319481130229; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:32:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.103.5 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:31:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EA59B03.4080500@gmail.com> References: <4ae1bfdf-61ba-4539-84e0-0a56a67480fd@u13g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> <17558590.1835.1319383267925.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> <201110231635.52021.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1319423266.86720.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <12044470.729.1319460986934.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbza28> <12771495.560.1319462797316.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> <4EA59B03.4080500@gmail.com> From: Luke Bergen Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:31:50 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lojban and PR To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30363cef0e1df404b00fa4c6 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf30363cef0e1df404b00fa4c6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I didn't say it was a bad thing. It does get a bit tedious, but there are worse things. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, And Rosta wrote: > Luke Bergen, On 24/10/2011 14:36: > > Is it just me, or does "making a better lojban" come up every 6 months or >> so? >> >> Not to derail your thread/enthusiasm NH, but I swear to god, if we had as >> many people learning lojban as we have trying to redesign it / design >> loccan, our user base would be huge >> > > Isn't it to be expected, the situation you describe? The two largest groups > of Lojbanists are those who are attracted to CLL Lojban because it is > well-documented and has a user-community and those who are attracted to > Lojban because they're interested in a logical language and the > Lojban/Loglan community is the only community of people with that interest. > > --And. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/lojban?hl=en . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 = at 1:06 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:
Luke Bergen, On 24/10/2011 14:36:

Is it just me, or does "making a better lojban" come up every 6 m= onths or so?

Not to derail your thread/enthusiasm NH, but I swear to god, if we had as m= any people learning lojban as we have trying to redesign it / design loccan= , our user base would be huge

Isn't it to be expected, the situation you describe? The two largest gr= oups of Lojbanists are those who are attracted to CLL Lojban because it is = well-documented and has a user-community and those who are attracted to Loj= ban because they're interested in a logical language and the Lojban/Log= lan community is the only community of people with that interest.

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