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[87.194.76.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o17sm39815134wbm.6.2011.10.24.16.10.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:10:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EA5F07E.2070108@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:10:54 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: lojban and PR References: <4ae1bfdf-61ba-4539-84e0-0a56a67480fd@u13g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> <17558590.1835.1319383267925.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> <201110231635.52021.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1319423266.86720.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <12044470.729.1319460986934.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbza28> <12771495.560.1319462797316.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqbl36> <4EA59B03.4080500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Luke Bergen, On 24/10/2011 19:31: > I didn't say it was a bad thing. It does get a bit tedious, but there ar= e worse things. My point was not that you were saying it was a bad thing (altho you were im= plying that it was, I feel), but rather you were, in tones of mild astonish= ment, describing something so unastonishing, so natural and so much to be e= xpected that it was not worth describing. --and. > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:06 PM, And Rosta > wrote: > > Luke Bergen, On 24/10/2011 14:36: > > Is it just me, or does "making a better lojban" come up every 6 m= onths or so? > > Not to derail your thread/enthusiasm NH, but I swear to god, if w= e had as many people learning lojban as we have trying to redesign it / des= ign loccan, our user base would be huge > > > Isn't it to be expected, the situation you describe? The two largest = groups of Lojbanists are those who are attracted to CLL Lojban because it i= s well-documented and has a user-community and those who are attracted to L= ojban because they're interested in a logical language and the Lojban/Logla= n community is the only community of people with that interest. > > --And. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gr= oups "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@ goo= glegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group= /lojban?hl=3Den . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegr= oups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojb= an?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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