On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 5:40 AM, djandus <jandew@gmail.com>= wrote:

This is a lot of random things, some of which could probably be answer= ed by better cll reading, but I've already been on there for the past {= so'i} hours, so... yeah.

So, I was thinking about {PA ka'o PA}, and how it's automatica= lly in the rectangular imaginary space (a + bi), and I was wondering what i= t would take to swap to polar (a e^ib). This would obviously be {PA=A0te= 9;o te'a ka'o PA}, which in some cases could be obnoxious to use. I= then became curious about if I could assign a word for it, etc. etc. I mea= n, could I assign the word {te'a'o} to be exp()? (I'm mainly as= king about the "Would that word violate any morphology rules?" pa= rt.)

Then going to declaration of functions, I remembered a question I had = a while back. Can you use pro-valsi assignment cmavo to set words you want = to define? As in, there always comes a time when a speaker wants to make up= a word for something rather than use {broda} -- so, he might define a less= -temporary brivla that he expects to use much later in a similar context. H= e could, of course, use {smuni}, but that would imply the brivla is officia= l -- it makes more sense to me to be able to use {cei} to define it.

One last thing that came up while I was browsing the cll regards modal= sentence connection. (http://dag.github.com/cll/9/7/) The cll doesn't explicitly= provide examples of this, but I expect from the text that you can use moda= l connection to imply any abstraction, as with

{mi djuno do .idu'ibo mi djuno lo mi xance} or

{mi djuno du'igi do gi lo mi xance} for

"I know you like the back of my hand"

Assuming {mi drani}, does it then make sense to use relativised pro-su= mti inside modally connected bridi, like so:

{mi djuno do .i fi'o se banli bo do pendo ce'u} for

"My knowing you has greatness in property being-befriended-by-you= "

which is a really obscure example, I know, but bear with me here. Does= that construction make sense?

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=A0 No.=A0 As it says in Chapter 9, the end of section 8:

Note: Due to restrictions on the Lojban parsing algorithm, it is not pos= sible to form modal connectives using the ``fi'o''-plus-selbri = form of modal. Only the predefined modals of selma'o BAI can be compoun= ded as shown in Sections 7 and 8.

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The end of this is I'd love to have a translation for Bilbo's = great line, "I don't know half of you half as well as I should lik= e, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." I= 9;ve gotten started with the following:

{mi na djuno pi mu do .idu'ibo??? .i mi nelci me'i pi mu do ??= ?}

Not only am I stuck with how to relate the clauses, but I'm also s= tuck with how to translate "should"...

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Try this:

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mi se slabu=A0do fo su'e pi mu lo ni mi djica no'a .ije mi nel= ci me'i pi mu do se kai=A0 pi mu lo ni se jerna do

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa

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