Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:51504) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RKdQW-0004bG-MP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:31 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf724457bka.16 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+VP0Pd7rjbniXLm8Z+r4OAhUG6drKhMuFMnPAjSK2nw=; b=hs6lJYBkWLESzluzxwRqB6crVFSi8vzUwIER0yOdU7vRpk0IZqfMTG7vEmD77tsSHl 1BRMAlUt/Dw8MNm8hz80G3Nt6FurP7DS9diyjFNWdtoQtiHtVvUXRB+Bbx5qap5MSv0F u54c/6et85bUpyNgM/ppAht175bI5opcddIis= Received: by 10.204.0.67 with SMTP id 3mr727263bka.20.1320012014466; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.26.200 with SMTP id f8ls5208647bkc.0.gmail; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.146.17 with SMTP id f17mr1437109bkv.5.1320012013361; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.146.17 with SMTP id f17mr1437108bkv.5.1320012013343; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f47.google.com (mail-fx0-f47.google.com [209.85.161.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f1si2847546fae.1.2011.10.30.15.00.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.47; Received: by faas16 with SMTP id s16so5617847faa.6 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.15.10 with SMTP id i10mr24282030faa.17.1320012013196; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.5.165 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:00:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111030212542.GA9317@gonzales> References: <20111029145956.GB9385@gonzales> <20111029221510.GA32586@gonzales> <20111030044700.GB32586@gonzales> <20111030151405.GC32586@gonzales> <20111030182343.GA3142@gonzales> <20111030212542.GA9317@gonzales> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 19:00:13 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {zo'e} as close-scope existentially quantified plural variable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Martin Bays wrote: > > That does raise (again) the possibly important question of where it is > that a bunch of lions cinfos. > > Obvious answers: > (i) everywhere at least one of them zvatis; > (ii) at some specificish locale, such as their centre of mass; > (iii) everywhere. > > (ii) is icky. It could also be the minimum volume that contains them all, unless you require the answer to "where" to be in point form. > Under (iii), {lo vi cinfo} wouldn't work. > > So I guess you're working with (i)? Where would you say you remna? Is there a single right answer? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.