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On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:25 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:

> John E. Clifford, On 30/10/2011 18:38:
>
> Whatever else it does ( and I confess to not following most of the
>> subsequent discussion), xorxes' story raises one of the great
>> problems for the Aristotelian wing: how do we get to generalizations
>> from limited instances? Children who have seen only chihuahuas,
>> somehow recognize terriers and spaniels as dogs, for example. Xorxes
>> suggests the Platonic answer: we are directly aware of the kind when
>> we see the instance (well, some of us, anyhow).
>>
>
> Is that Xorxes's answer? I'd have thought his answer is rather that people
> strive to form inductive generalizations, as in fact is abundantly attested
> by child language, e.g. the child that calls the moon 'ball', or (as my son
> did) an overhead lamp 'moon'.


  I would tend to agree with that.  I think the natural tendency for the
language brain is to overgeneralize, and the limits of the of the
categories have to be extrinsically learned from other  users of the
lanaguage.
        --gjeyspa

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 3:25 PM, And Rosta <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:and.rosta@gmail.com">and.rosta@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">John E. Clifford, On 30/10/2011 =
18:38:=20
<div class=3D"im"><br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Whatever else it does ( and I co=
nfess to not following most of the<br>subsequent discussion), xorxes&#39; s=
tory raises one of the great<br>
problems for the Aristotelian wing: how do we get to generalizations<br>fro=
m limited instances? Children who have seen only chihuahuas,<br>somehow rec=
ognize terriers and spaniels as dogs, for example. Xorxes<br>suggests the P=
latonic answer: we are directly aware of the kind when<br>
we see the instance (well, some of us, anyhow).<br></blockquote><br></div>I=
s that Xorxes&#39;s answer? I&#39;d have thought his answer is rather that =
people strive to form inductive generalizations, as in fact is abundantly a=
ttested by child language, e.g. the child that calls the moon &#39;ball&#39=
;, or (as my son did) an overhead lamp &#39;moon&#39;. </blockquote>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0 I would tend to agree with that.=A0 I think the natural tendency f=
or the language brain is to overgeneralize, and the limits of the of the ca=
tegories have to be extrinsically learned from other=A0 users of the lanagu=
age.</div>

<div>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gjeyspa</div>
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