Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:42255) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RLF56-0002N8-52; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:49 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf2783481bka.16 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=l1U1MyURwdXEO1dhjca2hd45IuHfrwILZ0vINXKHWnI=; b=NvaVay5VDBDasb2qJ45RckceRi0R0QaYu6xiC1e6u/62wp4g5n5pCRZMH83T0MzoEM pb9v5q+F14gG5GetGgxzTA/agipT6xfoHJAU2UpczPFnL8hQakbullf9qTVHwsBW9WMg oiFKmPTc9PfBoQ2cnccSz5+BFjNOa7ILTOa/0= Received: by 10.204.133.208 with SMTP id g16mr2247421bkt.31.1320156757951; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.29.7 with SMTP id o7ls2513269bkc.2.gmail; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr2417053bkv.6.1320156751196; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.148.84 with SMTP id o20mr2417052bkv.6.1320156751173; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f52.google.com (mail-bw0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s1si2325950bku.1.2011.11.01.07.12.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.52; Received: by mail-bw0-f52.google.com with SMTP id c12so5774011bkb.39 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.152.68 with SMTP id f4mr15425375bkw.59.1320156751033; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.35.199 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:12:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] a fourth "we" in English? From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.52 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175924663177c604b0acf2d5 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --0015175924663177c604b0acf2d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It occurred to me the other day, that while in lojban we have three "we"s -- mi'o (me and you), mi'a (me and not-you), ma'a (me, you, and not-you), that "we" is used in English in another way, which doesn't involve "me" at all -- such as "We beat the Yankees" or "We shouldn't rape our enemies's woman, that's just wrong". I guess this is metonymy? Anyway, is there a way to do this in lojban? --gejyspa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --0015175924663177c604b0acf2d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It occurred to me the other day, that while in lojban= we have three "we"s -- mi'o (me and you), mi'a (me and n= ot-you), ma'a (me, you, and not-you), that "we" is used in En= glish in another way, which doesn't involve "me" at all -- su= ch as "We beat the Yankees" or "We shouldn't rape our en= emies's woman, that's just wrong".=A0 I guess this is metonymy= ? Anyway, is there a way to do this in lojban?
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