Received: from mail-vx0-f184.google.com ([209.85.220.184]:35458) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RLM7h-0001LN-5i; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:44:05 -0700 Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10sf1724363vcb.1 for ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:43:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=boLwWF1qawj6KJD3bxrln6EOn7Si8uErdzTLAzuIjGc=; b=t3EhvP86UDpPEu+ThecFUuN2sTl0jOmuIsQyduQdwhs9fGypYZ1A8sxXFL977cysbf Bm1hicm6qcMza2ioxLOLQSkGaEXLKYPzMik+LFSjWP79mcfPjE6/YesuKm0ue8qGg3VZ MTG5Fs+tMXOoxvw9gKRwl4sFFlg0zvrOtRMJc= Received: by 10.52.240.229 with SMTP id wd5mr486648vdc.4.1320183828121; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:43:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.108.71 with SMTP id e7ls5067055vcp.3.canary; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.35.206 with SMTP id k14mr1790690vdj.5.1320183827512; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.35.206 with SMTP id k14mr1790688vdj.5.1320183827502; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.121]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id c19si140831vdd.1.2011.11.01.14.43.47; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.121; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=IgpUQdftngPYiFo35C+d15A7VOHB2YsNoON26nFqGQw= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=e5660Ckks1wA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=ufN87I5PAAAA:8 a=cx45LwLmtSQ0BmhMhqcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:51381] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BA/82-12951-31860BE4; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:43:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8D31CDB8 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:43:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] a fourth "we" in English? Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:43:43 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201111011615.43402.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111011743.44600.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday 01 November 2011 17:23:51 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Tuesday 01 November 2011 12:45:11 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > >> lu mi'o plixa li'u se cusku lo sfani lo bakni > > > > mi smadi lodu'u di'u xelfanva lo rimni .iku'i mi na facki > > It seems there are many versions. The one I knew is "aramos dijo el > mosquito, al buey que part=EDa el terr=F3n", but I found one in English: > "And so we plough along, as the fly said to the ox" from Longfellow: > http://quotes.dictionary.com/And_so_we_plough_along_as_the_fly > It says it's from "Chispa, in The Spanish Student, act 3, sc. 6 > (1840)" so I wonder if Longfellow got it from Spanish. I guessed it was something like "Together we plow, said the fly to the cow"= . Pierre --=20 The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den.