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[66.94.237.91]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id z70si104796yhn.5.2011.11.01.14.56.45; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.91 as permitted sender) client-ip=66.94.237.91; Received: from [66.94.237.198] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2011 21:56:45 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.104] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2011 21:56:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2011 21:56:45 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 769476.42829.bm@omp1009.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 62177 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2011 21:56:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Rn8Ua2UVM1kvR9opEsmewe_oldlga_DHwf5fer.oNXYEmM1 bPaqtSATxqHv07_njZF6P3gcoLxPDHseNazJk_cyYAN8vrwQxiLq48w3.ijk hj5U5UiwTxWf1dSzx5k_pJA.dI._i3mtjLniQ1qX665t6kmDBQ2etBuuTe_S tJORlbv6H7oXhKweBcQcK5P8n01dRPv56UKBdpkYMDtkIVn02H5_geU.xwpg pG_v_fsMExQUj2We9NZlXxOCYPBK8n609oskRrM1Jz52Xspbg1wY.O4.Qp6L G.pKIBtSKta48P1tos12qqq_rv67c_Kza4zluU8OW3llepI9aoQE9swU6G_d x2jcKEamTb4lTvtDVZbbAUtuhCBvlyixRzgT9qiBH4IdgZ2fVS2ymrELSv3k 7ZwgH5srg_t6xHzHX15OtrN8b3DTvIjwc3_AanmD6lVkfD_GMkM8mVH8g353 2_x0Z0qTjxHO3NH9NHSChDGKp7Y9gc9oMIuiUUVl4pnzxe9D4PzbhzIzrdMh PaT3kbv36vCGvAFlO5sFsBEDZ3FMevAQzGyFf35v.tdq6lqkAiKk6FGksKXQ stIgaB2bD0NCQQquD7d8y1vNCaV849s2DjViCv_QE7ofeCAKYchh_Bht9zAb _dJ8hIJ._De5DKO2jRuStQc4NUu77XrQqJOdZ9HI- Received: from [99.92.108.41] by web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:56:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/574 YahooMailWebService/0.8.114.317681 References: <201111011615.43402.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-ID: <1320184605.61404.YahooMailRC@web81303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:56:45 -0700 (PDT) From: John E Clifford Subject: Re: [lojban] a fourth "we" in English? To: lojban@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 66.94.237.91 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / The problem of figuring out the outer limits of a team (collective=20 achievements). I live in St. Louis, where "We won" has been screaming sinc= e=20 whenever it was last week. ----- Original Message ---- From: Jorge Llamb=EDas To: lojban@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, November 1, 2011 4:23:51 PM Subject: Re: [lojban] a fourth "we" in English? On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 01 November 2011 12:45:11 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >> lu mi'o plixa li'u se cusku lo sfani lo bakni > > mi smadi lodu'u di'u xelfanva lo rimni .iku'i mi na facki It seems there are many versions. The one I knew is "aramos dijo el mosquito, al buey que part=EDa el terr=F3n", but I found one in English: "And so we plough along, as the fly said to the ox" from Longfellow: http://quotes.dictionary.com/And_so_we_plough_along_as_the_fly It says it's from "Chispa, in The Spanish Student, act 3, sc. 6 (1840)" so I wonder if Longfellow got it from Spanish. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 "lojban" group. 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