Received: from mail-bw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:62303) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RLxo9-0007Gj-CL; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:29 -0700 Received: by bkat2 with SMTP id t2sf1299799bka.16 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wehxnFa6KGllmtDPNVx+LlZpTaexxmcUHk81c+2xTyU=; b=UTPdZjIzQuHv5jW+vDf6qRiv2ibqUzOYRH/7Q/enUCnaMaw3fgeIpVJDKIYOvPtpFZ AA+arQBCQueogYGVsnt7t+UH5QlyIVEYPvxAecNV3YFDgkEeQTDIJJpTg5RZgM9GuwqR cwjb7OyX3CInVrDDTitWcAIqku1ChpiyqQouk= Received: by 10.204.41.201 with SMTP id p9mr901599bke.23.1320328687191; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.29.7 with SMTP id o7ls5244657bkc.2.gmail; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.184.2 with SMTP id ci2mr1179237bkb.7.1320328685059; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.184.2 with SMTP id ci2mr1179236bkb.7.1320328685027; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f51.google.com (mail-bw0-f51.google.com [209.85.214.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a16si993887bku.3.2011.11.03.06.58.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.51; Received: by bke17 with SMTP id 17so1513120bke.24 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.7.144 with SMTP id d16mr8124617bkd.70.1320328684752; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.40.73 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:58:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111102053827.GF26004@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20110927055819.GW18099@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20110927064919.GX18099@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111002005717.GM20043@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111031053206.GC8858@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111101084840.GC15924@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <20111102053827.GF26004@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:58:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More about the babies (was Re: [lojban] Help request: move things to github for me.) From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517588cfa3dceaa04b0d4fa58 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001517588cfa3dceaa04b0d4fa58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 to mi na se raktu lo nu pilno zo carmi tu'a lo srana be lo nu cinmo to ru'a ra terpro be fi do toi .i zo cai selcmu zo carmi .i lo ka selcni cu ka'e carmi toi ni'o mi pu sruma lo du'u lo pu'u do binxo lo rirni cu na y cacklu .i mi tugni do fo zo rorci joi zo rirni zo panzi ni'o pixra xu --gejyspa On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Robin Lee Powell < rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 08:27:32AM -0400, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > uicaidai ko zanfri lo do re dirba cifnu > > ki'e sai do > > > .i mi djuno lo du'u do puze'u carmi djica tu'a lo panzi [?] > > For this discussion, I will take {rorci} to be strictly > biological/genetic, rirni to be about rearing, and panzi to be > ambiguous along that axis; if someone wants to tweak jbovlaste to > make that (or any other distinction) a *lot* more clearer, that > would be lovely. > > to mi na nelci zo carmi do'e di'e toi do drani jibni .i le speni > ba'u be mi goi ko'a cu tcetce djica lo nu rirni .i lo nu rorci cu > xagmau gi'e ku'i na sarcu lo nu gleki > > ni'o je'u ko'a na .ue dai rorci le tarbi be ko'a .i mi'a pilno lo > drata fetsi se sovda .i ku'i mi te rorci le tarbi be ko'a .i mutce > cinri tcini > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Robin Lee Powell < > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > go'i .i mi pu zi rorci re cifnu > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > > uanai do casnu lo fu'e xu zasti je remna fu'o cifnu ku uasai > > > > > > > > --gejsypa > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Robin Lee Powell < > > > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > This has become even more true since babies showed up. > > > > > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 05:57:17PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > > I feel the urge to point out that all the actually-hard parts > > > > > > still need doing, and that I'm still not doing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:49:20PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > > > > Well, the jbovlaste part; there's also the CVS bits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:42:54PM -0700, Theodore Reed wrote: > > > > > > > > Done: https://github.com/lojban/jbovlaste > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 23:17, Theodore Reed < > ted.reed@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm taking care of #1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 22:58, Robin Lee Powell < > > > > > > > > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> I'm pretty worn out with all the server move tasks, and I > > > could > > > > > > > > >> really use some help on this one. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> At > http://teddyb.org/~rlpowell/media/public/for_github.tgzyou > > > > > will > > > > > > > > >> find some svn stuff (only jbovlaste/ needs copying > please) and > > > > > some > > > > > > > > >> CVS stuff (not so sure there; maybe all of it?). > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> The following things need doing: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> 1. I'd like them up on github, under > > > https://github.com/lojban , > > > > > > > > >> with myself as some kind of admin; I can give you any > needed > > > perms > > > > > > > > >> there I think > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> 2. Find and bug me to install something that will backup > all > > > our > > > > > > > > >> github repos automatically; perhaps help with scripting > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> 3. Similarily for updating the bits that do automatic > updates > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> translations that were in CVS when people change them, or > > > perhaps > > > > > > > > >> move to a makefile and http://pages.github.com/ (although > > > given > > > > > the > > > > > > > > >> esotericness of the build tools that's perhaps less good) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> -Robin > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to > the > > > > > Google Groups > > > > > > > > >> "lojban" group. > > > > > > > > >> To post to this group, send email to > lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > > > >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > > > > > > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > Google > > > > > Groups "lojban" group. > > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com > . > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > > > > Groups "lojban" group. > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic > future. > > > > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this > parrot > > > > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > > > > is "na nei". My personal page: > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > > "lojban" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "lojban" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > > > is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "lojban" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > is "na nei". 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to mi na se raktu lo nu pilno zo carmi tu'a lo sr= ana be lo nu cinmo=A0 to ru'a ra terpro be fi do toi .i zo cai selcmu z= o carmi .i lo ka selcni cu ka'e carmi toi
ni'o mi pu sruma lo du'u lo pu'u do binxo lo rirni cu na y= cacklu .i mi tugni do fo zo rorci joi zo rirni zo panzi
=A0
ni'o pixra xu
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa
=A0
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Robin Lee Powell= <rlpow= ell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 08:27:32= AM -0400, Michael Turniansky wrote:
> uicaidai ko zanfri lo do re dir= ba cifnu

ki'e sai do

> .i mi djuno lo du'u do puze'u carmi= djica tu'a lo panzi [?]

For this discussion, I will take {rorci= } to be strictly
biological/genetic, rirni to be about rearing, and panz= i to be
ambiguous along that axis; if someone wants to tweak jbovlaste to
make t= hat (or any other distinction) a *lot* more clearer, that
would be lovel= y.

to mi na nelci zo carmi do'e di'e toi do drani jibni .i l= e speni
ba'u be mi goi ko'a cu tcetce djica lo nu rirni .i lo nu rorci cuxagmau gi'e ku'i na sarcu lo nu gleki

ni'o je'u ko= 'a na .ue dai rorci le tarbi be ko'a .i mi'a pilno lo
drata = fetsi se sovda .i ku'i mi te rorci le tarbi be ko'a .i mutce
cinri tcini

> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Robin Lee Powell &l= t;
> rlpowell@digitalk= ingdom.org> wrote:
>
> > go'i .i mi pu zi rorci r= e cifnu
> >
> > -Robin
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 31, 201= 1 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Michael Turniansky wrote:
> > > uanai = =A0do casnu lo fu'e xu zasti je remna fu'o cifnu ku uasai
> &= gt; >
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejsypa
> > > On Mon, Oct 31, = 2011 at 1:32 AM, Robin Lee Powell <
> > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
= > > >
> > > > This has become even more true since babies showed up.<= br>> > > >
> > > > -Robin
> > > >=
> > > > On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 05:57:17PM -0700, Robin Lee= Powell wrote:
> > > > > I feel the urge to point out that all the actually= -hard parts
> > > > > still need doing, and that I'm = still not doing them.
> > > > >
> > > > &g= t; -Robin
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 a= t 11:49:20PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote:
> > > > > >= ; Well, the jbovlaste part; there's also the CVS bits.
> > >= ; > > >
> > > > > > -Robin
> > > > > >
&g= t; > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:42:54PM -0700, Theod= ore Reed wrote:
> > > > > > > Done: https://github.com/lojba= n/jbovlaste
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On= Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 23:17, Theodore Reed <ted.reed@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > w= rote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > &g= t; I'm taking care of #1.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > &= gt; > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 22:58, Robin Lee Powell <
> > > > > > > > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote:
> > > &g= t; > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I'm pretty worn out with al= l the server move tasks, and I
> > could
> > > > &g= t; > > >> really use some help on this one.
> > > &= gt; > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> At http://teddyb.= org/~rlpowell/media/public/for_github.tgzyou
> > > > wil= l
> > > > > > > >> find some svn stuff (only jbovl= aste/ needs copying please) and
> > > > some
> > &g= t; > > > > >> CVS stuff (not so sure there; maybe all of = it?).
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > >= ; > >> The following things need doing:
> > > > >= ; > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 1. I= 9;d like them up on github, under
> > https://g= ithub.com/lojban ,
> > > > > > > >> with = myself as some kind of admin; I can give you any needed
> > perms<= br> > > > > > > > >> there I think
> > >= > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>= ; 2. Find and bug me to install something that will backup all
> >= our
> > > > > > > >> github repos automatically; per= haps help with scripting
> > > > > > > >>
= > > > > > > > >> 3. Similarily for updating the = bits that do automatic updates
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > &g= t; >> translations that were in CVS when people change them, or
&g= t; > perhaps
> > > > > > > >> move to a ma= kefile and http://pa= ges.github.com/ (although
> > given
> > > > the
> > > > > >= > >> esotericness of the build tools that's perhaps less good= )
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > >= ; > > >> -Robin
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > >= ; > >> --
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> > > > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in = which "this parrot
> > > > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", b= ut "this sentence is false"
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