Received: from mail-vw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:42399) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RLzT2-0000O9-3F; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:44:43 -0700 Received: by vws16 with SMTP id 16sf1274504vws.16 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:44:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=YOfefB9TAb6P+RHu863CBMxy44tpDCPGEgXgt8DtYEE=; b=Ch16j7FEcoNF8REyjQS1pLcScGYle9I20cY/UC2u+LTOL6+40SzzWJDgvOEHt7txPL e12+3qy3zvcy08wHNYXrPj/A/0XZlPFK1M0+qQ1LwAmajlDt3RrEtvriyKhqFGwd1h6j /XONtgOPY25VmHnL5RECtkWUUcqH0JF7A0TL4= Received: by 10.52.95.34 with SMTP id dh2mr2269572vdb.10.1320335064532; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.7.146 with SMTP id d18ls2523121vcd.4.gmail; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.64.173 with SMTP id p13mr10529063vds.0.1320335063942; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.64.173 with SMTP id p13mr10529062vds.0.1320335063935; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.123]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id bu17si3430855vdc.0.2011.11.03.08.44.23; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 08:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.123; X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H65ZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=xoE3uJi7ZPAA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=2AXqG6V5fd4XjWlrPV4A:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:36152] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F8/25-13401-7D6B2BE4; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 15:44:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8FB2146A for ; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:44:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] baby words: eyes open Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:44:20 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20111102080420.GF27896@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <201111020555.49230.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111031144.21124.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.123 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thursday 03 November 2011 10:13:36 Michael Turniansky wrote: > Yeah, I asked the same question many years ago and received the same > response. Interestingly enough, Hebrew uses two different words for > generally opening (pytax) and opening eyes (pykax) > --gejyspa "But in Sawi you fagadon your eyes, anahagkon your heart, tagavon a door, tarifan a tin can, and dargavon a listener's understanding." Don Richardson, Peace Child, p. 172. Sawi is spoken in the lowlands of western New Guinea near Asmat and Kayagar. Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.