Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:34322) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RLzuA-0001GA-7f; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:44 -0700 Received: by wwg7 with SMTP id 7sf3012945wwg.16 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=e12wQe1hrkUlD9REm+wm5I2mCJovPB48tcJaKg6LlDc=; b=1YRp1PMGZn7YffeIPuHw8xRVUMm/b2XB7bzObDzD9FfgI0XUKD1Nw5AnOTu6Ul0pE0 c0w0vzMuQzw66NyhS4Ma0FSOjw/B3g0UgLcuUeDo7Pk1pac5tLjt1rQOqeWMB7Ye+prz yl5JHDq2pbVWfKDLbLAsKaIXPufLL1yOAIsEg= Received: by 10.216.131.32 with SMTP id l32mr1221149wei.45.1320336747696; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.26.217 with SMTP id c65ls3187333eea.2.canary; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.13.212 with SMTP id d20mr1026095eba.1.1320336746101; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.13.212 with SMTP id d20mr1026094eba.1.1320336746057; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f49.google.com (mail-fx0-f49.google.com [209.85.161.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t21si732513faf.0.2011.11.03.09.12.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.49; Received: by mail-fx0-f49.google.com with SMTP id q17so2667687faa.22 for ; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.81.196 with SMTP id y4mr17478430fak.6.1320336745886; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 09:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.1.7 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:12:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <17294635.733.1320160412847.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqce21> <15299677.1288.1320305653443.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqnx19> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 10:12:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new guide that needs guidance From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e42ab8f2dd04b0d6da81 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --00151750e42ab8f2dd04b0d6da81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:12 AM, M. Nael wrote: > For me till now, 'bu' is a rafsi (right?) that means a 'letteral'... > No. It's a cmavo. rafsi are the combining forms of words used to make lujvo. > What I meant is, why not have a sort of cmene to mean specific lerfu? > We do. The name of Q is "kybu". > especially those of other languages? I can't imagine using la for that... > > 2. Could Lojban be used as a primarily SOV language? Somewhere between > chapter 2 and 3 of Lojban for beginners, the writers says that you can > 'promote' several sumti to preceed the selbri; does this mean it could act > as a complete SOV lang.? > Yes, it is possible to say/write Lojban bridi in the such a way as to act like it's an SOV language. Or an OSV one, or a VSO one, or any other word order. But Lojban doesn't have /verbs/, so it would only be /appearing/ to be such-it wouldn't actually be. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --00151750e42ab8f2dd04b0d6da81 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:12 AM, M. Nael <muhammad.nael@= gmail.com> wrote:
For me till now, 'bu' is a rafsi (right?) that mea= ns a 'letteral'...

No. It's a cmavo= . rafsi are the combining forms of words used to make lujvo.
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What I meant is, why not have a sort of cmene to mean spec= ific lerfu?

We do. The name of Q is "kybu&= quot;.
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especially those of other languages? I can't imagine u= sing la for that...

2. Could Lojban be used as a primarily SOV language? Somewhe= re between chapter 2 and 3 of Lojban for beginners, the writers says that y= ou can 'promote' several sumti to preceed the selbri; does this mea= n it could act as a complete SOV lang.?

Yes, it is possible to say/write= Lojban bridi in the such a way as to act like it's an SOV language. Or= an OSV one, or a VSO one, or any other word order. But Lojban doesn't = have /verbs/, so it would only be /appearing/ to be such-it wouldn't ac= tually be.

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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