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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201111031937.00437.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.121 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: 2.2 (++) X-Spam_score: 2.2 X-Spam_score_int: 22 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Thursday 03 November 2011 12:12:25 Jonathan Jones wrote: > Yes, it is possible to say/write Lojban bridi in the such a way as to act > like it's an SOV language. Or an OSV one, or a VSO one, or any other word > order. But Lojban doesn't have /verbs/, so it would only be /appearing/ to > be such-it wouldn't actually be. [...] Content analysis details: (2.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_RED Contains an URL listed in the URIBL redlist [URIs: googlegroups.com] 1.1 URIBL_GREY Contains an URL listed in the URIBL greylist [URIs: googlegroups.com] 1.8 URIBL_BLACK Contains an URL listed in the URIBL blacklist [URIs: googlegroups.com] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.220.189 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature On Thursday 03 November 2011 12:12:25 Jonathan Jones wrote: > Yes, it is possible to say/write Lojban bridi in the such a way as to act > like it's an SOV language. Or an OSV one, or a VSO one, or any other word > order. But Lojban doesn't have /verbs/, so it would only be /appearing/ to > be such-it wouldn't actually be. I say, rather, that it *does* have verbs, but the verb covers what in other languages would be adjectives or nouns or adverbs. It works equally well as SVO or SOV, until you make compound predicates or things like that. The other orders need FA or SE. Pierre -- lo ponse be lo mruli po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.