Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:40496) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RMF99-0007Bm-5E; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:29:11 -0700 Received: by wwg7 with SMTP id 7sf4223006wwg.16 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:28:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=sb+jVeNDtXpDxjnPKIFkIbqS6adLOBUi6Wgh079rFmM=; b=1Lyc6M2rqsJLLNhN1ov6YBtZggTemygi80mOK3awAFre+VaPi3u3lQthPtpVfN8Pa6 8wJ8eULaPE7Bxy1QBF+2/6UHC60c9wLJ96ISqRSK2PsjJunNP0LlXPmu7AkJ9IkDjiw1 oUsmgS4OeOlrCzzWNgesNwfla38pjMC+kPFNE= Received: by 10.216.194.31 with SMTP id l31mr138616wen.0.1320395306599; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:28:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.38.21 with SMTP id z21ls5598532wbd.2.gmail; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.204.149 with SMTP id fm21mr938121wbb.3.1320395305596; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.204.149 with SMTP id fm21mr938120wbb.3.1320395305579; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id es13si4469806wbb.3.2011.11.04.01.28.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of muhammad.nael@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.50; Received: by mail-ww0-f50.google.com with SMTP id 14so3181590wwp.31 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:28:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.60.131 with SMTP id p3mr18557306wbh.4.1320395305202; Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.147.197 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 01:28:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201111031937.00437.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <17294635.733.1320160412847.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yqce21> <201111031937.00437.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: A new guide that needs guidance From: "M. Nael" To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: muhammad.nael@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of muhammad.nael@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=muhammad.nael@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517511f2a21363c04b0e47d94 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --001517511f2a21363c04b0e47d94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -It looks like I went too deep here so I'll round it up... Why doesn't lojban have something even remotely like NATO's alphabet? Not long names for lerfu but just different enough. I know how pronounce a quite large part of the IPA main chart but don't ask me to do strange vowels... ie. I can say py. and by. But I can't differentiate them. So why not something like (byb. pyp.) for example? -There are natlangs that use verbs as adjectives, called stative verbs if I recall. Compound predicates, I haven't reached that yet and I'm scanning the lessons bit by bit. *=E2=80=BA=E2=80=BA 3.* I noticed (mi'e) and (mi'afra) which look like a (m= i) with things attached... Should this mean that whenever there's an apostrophe for the sound /h/, the syllables before and after the apostrophe should be counted as one word? ie. /h/ could never be at the beginning or the end of a word? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --001517511f2a21363c04b0e47d94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
-It looks like I went too deep here so I'll round it u= p...
Why doesn't lojban have something even remotely like NATO's al= phabet? Not long names for lerfu but just different enough. I know how pron= ounce a quite large part of the IPA main chart but don't ask me to do s= trange vowels... ie. I can say py. and by. But I can't=C2=A0differentia= te=C2=A0them. So why not something like (byb. pyp.) for example?

-There are natlangs that use verbs as adjectives, calle= d stative verbs if I recall. Compound predicates, I haven't reached tha= t yet and I'm scanning the lessons bit by bit.

=E2=80=BA=E2=80=BA 3. I noticed (mi'e) and (mi'afra) wh= ich look like a (mi) with things attached... Should this mean that whenever= there's an apostrophe for the sound /h/, the=C2=A0syllables=C2=A0befor= e and after the apostrophe should be counted as one word? ie. /h/ could nev= er be at the=C2=A0beginning=C2=A0or the end of a word?

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